> Why are there only a small number of refineries in the entire world? Because scale can make things cheaper - and that leads to single points of failure.
Scale makes things cheaper, but the other consideration is what is the alternative to small DIY-style regional industry?
If the alternative is not preferable (tyranny), then eventually the pain makes it an even trade-off.
> Didn't the entire east coast of the USA have gas shut down last year because of one pipeline?
Technicallity, especially if you're relying on pipelines instead of shipping by truck or freight.
> Trade is necessary in the world today
Agreed, but globalism isn't.
> Added to that is the matter of value. Suppose I am a nurse. How much do I charge in the local currency?
Thats for the nurse to decide. And thats the difference between a real market, and a centrally planned command economy. Prices, like water, find their own level.
> How does that translate to USD or government currency? What if my work is entirely online? How does my value get processed?
All worthwhile questions.
> Go to a farmer's market - these "parallel economy" people are getting paid in government fiat.
But it is concievable that there will come time when thats not necessarily the case anymore.
Be it with gold, silver, decentralized crypto, market scrip, state/region backed currencies, etc.
> It's a great dream, but unrealistic.
Everything which is far off and fraught with risk is by its nature unrealistic.
> Who was the guy on Poal trying to get the NW USA as an enclave? How did that turn out?
One example does not an inevitability make.
it's inevitability that a lot of similar efforts will fail and thats even part of the eventual success. You have to have fialure to build the recognition and groundswell necessary for people to realize a broader movement must happen, without which future efforts would be doomed.
Failure isn't an option--it's **absolutely essential** to future success.
"And for trying to make fun of him by thinking they can fool anyone with strings and chickens."
The lesson is in the outcome of the culture passing on the behavior from generation to generation.
The lesson to them is "the highest holy is to subvert all law and rules."
That is their 'god' in a nutshell.
Among europeans, our god is "the highest holy is order that is good and effective."
We seek to order the world, each according to our nature.
The ultimate end process of this will either be the victory of the europeans, and the annihilation of judaism, or the victory of the jewish, and the annihilation of europeans.
And then nature and nature's god will have determined, which is the truer test of a people's character and strength, which is the greater lesson.
"It needs much refining before it can be used in current engines. "
I have seen people build oil refineries in their back yard. Obviously no one was talking about running plain old oil.
"The buffers are also going to be single points of failure in the event (((they))) feel threatened."
The buffers are disposable by nature. But the purpose of a buffer should be two fold
1. leverage the state into a situation that it can't recover from, so taking down the buffer takes down the state too
2. provide time for a parallel economy to organize sufficiently that it no longer needs a go between.
Self-sufficient *regions* should be the goal, not isolated economic entities that can otherwise be laid siege to by the police, military, and political system.s
Nope. Tired overused narrative. They're hoping to *get ahead* of a boogaloo, before the amount of force the state has to use to shut this down passes the threshold for military intervention.
It won't work of course. Canadas still gonna get a boogaloo from the way it looks.
"Crypto has very limited usage in the real world. Will walmart take monero? Doesn't matter - because when the governments trace each transaction, they will be able to freeze those accounts.
What about randomizers? What if the terrorism act freezes the entire pool? That would take and or (((confiscate))) millions from many people just trying to stay anonymous. "
Thats not the point. The act of organizing a parallel economy is about two unstated goals
1. organizing *man power and resources*
2. pissing that *organized* group off, when the government is baited into shutting them down hard.
We'll know we're there when we hear about a new waco-sized event every month or every other week.
At that point western regimes will commit suicide by going too far and provoking *popular dissent* movements (which will already be happening, like is happening in canada) into spontaneous multiple regional, large scale organized revolts.
Thats sort of what happens when peaceful protest is made impossible.
The people will lose individually of course. Even a well trained, heavily armed militia, will still get utterly wasted by a marine recon team.
But the state will inevitably lose that war, much like they lost the war for the south, even as the north achieved its military objectives. Same thing with afghanistan. We demolished the tribals, and still lost geopolitically and by attrition.
U.s. fed gov, canadian government, even australian?
None of them can win a war against their own populace.
I'm half tempted to say external powers want to provoke these very wars, to de-legitimize the governments in question.
Could be solved if we got non-commercial stripper-wells to produce oil for fuel to power truckers working the parallel economy in every state in the u.s. / every province in canada.
The ability to cut out the middle men of the regimes isn't impossible, only improbable.
It's also not without the real risk they shut it down.
At least you still have your dolphins to fuck every day.
At 16 hours a day it's a thankless job. Thats a lot of dolphin fucking.
I bet your nickname is free willy.
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
Go your way then and believe nothing is possible.
But before you do, ask, where would you start if it were?
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masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
Who were the "cheesies"? for $500 alex.
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masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
I'm not familiar with ukraine.
Zelensky is their president backed by the u.s. right?
I also keep hearing this other name, volodymyr. Whos that?
/v/195 viewpost?postid=6217fe6fe60b2
masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
I didn't know the russian's spoke spanish.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=621799ba522b8
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
> Why are there only a small number of refineries in the entire world? Because scale can make things cheaper - and that leads to single points of failure.
Scale makes things cheaper, but the other consideration is what is the alternative to small DIY-style regional industry?
If the alternative is not preferable (tyranny), then eventually the pain makes it an even trade-off.
> Didn't the entire east coast of the USA have gas shut down last year because of one pipeline?
Technicallity, especially if you're relying on pipelines instead of shipping by truck or freight.
> Trade is necessary in the world today
Agreed, but globalism isn't.
> Added to that is the matter of value. Suppose I am a nurse. How much do I charge in the local currency?
Thats for the nurse to decide. And thats the difference between a real market, and a centrally planned command economy. Prices, like water, find their own level.
> How does that translate to USD or government currency? What if my work is entirely online? How does my value get processed?
All worthwhile questions.
> Go to a farmer's market - these "parallel economy" people are getting paid in government fiat.
But it is concievable that there will come time when thats not necessarily the case anymore.
Be it with gold, silver, decentralized crypto, market scrip, state/region backed currencies, etc.
> It's a great dream, but unrealistic.
Everything which is far off and fraught with risk is by its nature unrealistic.
> Who was the guy on Poal trying to get the NW USA as an enclave? How did that turn out?
One example does not an inevitability make.
it's inevitability that a lot of similar efforts will fail and thats even part of the eventual success. You have to have fialure to build the recognition and groundswell necessary for people to realize a broader movement must happen, without which future efforts would be doomed.
Failure isn't an option--it's **absolutely essential** to future success.
/v/AskVoat viewpost?postid=620e06675943d
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
"And for trying to make fun of him by thinking they can fool anyone with strings and chickens."
The lesson is in the outcome of the culture passing on the behavior from generation to generation.
The lesson to them is "the highest holy is to subvert all law and rules."
That is their 'god' in a nutshell.
Among europeans, our god is "the highest holy is order that is good and effective."
We seek to order the world, each according to our nature.
The ultimate end process of this will either be the victory of the europeans, and the annihilation of judaism, or the victory of the jewish, and the annihilation of europeans.
And then nature and nature's god will have determined, which is the truer test of a people's character and strength, which is the greater lesson.
/v/Black_History_Month viewpost?postid=62093a3f050fa
masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
"That's a bunch of azns"
You don't want to watch a bunch of asians get tasered? Whats wrong with you?
/v/4Chan viewpost?postid=620f313c2e127
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
"It needs much refining before it can be used in current engines. "
I have seen people build oil refineries in their back yard. Obviously no one was talking about running plain old oil.
"The buffers are also going to be single points of failure in the event (((they))) feel threatened."
The buffers are disposable by nature. But the purpose of a buffer should be two fold
1. leverage the state into a situation that it can't recover from, so taking down the buffer takes down the state too
2. provide time for a parallel economy to organize sufficiently that it no longer needs a go between.
Self-sufficient *regions* should be the goal, not isolated economic entities that can otherwise be laid siege to by the police, military, and political system.s
/v/AskVoat viewpost?postid=620e06675943d
masuji 2 points 3.2 years ago
"Wow, they're demanding a boogaloo instead. "
Nope. Tired overused narrative. They're hoping to *get ahead* of a boogaloo, before the amount of force the state has to use to shut this down passes the threshold for military intervention.
It won't work of course. Canadas still gonna get a boogaloo from the way it looks.
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masuji 3 points 3.2 years ago*
That stipulation was passed to
1. demoralize people
2. drag the convoy down in the mud to alienate it from its middle/moderate supporting base.
They're hoping it takes off. But I know canadians. It won't.
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masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
Veiled threats, thats what this is.
"We will destroy you and/or cancel you for donating."
We have no obligation to these criminals.
Keep donating.
/v/Controlavirus viewpost?postid=620da586525c5
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
Lol, the people we're importing hate diversity. Go walk through their ghettos and barrios and muslim no-go zones, if you don't believe me.
Do it. I dare you.
/v/WhiteGenocide viewpost?postid=620cfc3155878
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago*
"Crypto has very limited usage in the real world. Will walmart take monero? Doesn't matter - because when the governments trace each transaction, they will be able to freeze those accounts.
What about randomizers? What if the terrorism act freezes the entire pool? That would take and or (((confiscate))) millions from many people just trying to stay anonymous. "
Thats not the point. The act of organizing a parallel economy is about two unstated goals
1. organizing *man power and resources*
2. pissing that *organized* group off, when the government is baited into shutting them down hard.
We'll know we're there when we hear about a new waco-sized event every month or every other week.
At that point western regimes will commit suicide by going too far and provoking *popular dissent* movements (which will already be happening, like is happening in canada) into spontaneous multiple regional, large scale organized revolts.
Thats sort of what happens when peaceful protest is made impossible.
The people will lose individually of course. Even a well trained, heavily armed militia, will still get utterly wasted by a marine recon team.
But the state will inevitably lose that war, much like they lost the war for the south, even as the north achieved its military objectives. Same thing with afghanistan. We demolished the tribals, and still lost geopolitically and by attrition.
U.s. fed gov, canadian government, even australian?
None of them can win a war against their own populace.
I'm half tempted to say external powers want to provoke these very wars, to de-legitimize the governments in question.
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masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
Could be solved if we got non-commercial stripper-wells to produce oil for fuel to power truckers working the parallel economy in every state in the u.s. / every province in canada.
The ability to cut out the middle men of the regimes isn't impossible, only improbable.
It's also not without the real risk they shut it down.
/v/AskVoat viewpost?postid=620e06675943d
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago*
" You CAN NOT be both a "good guy" and a "Bad guy" to others (YOU don't like). If you LIKE cheating, you'll USE cheating to "win" every time. "
On the contrary, people mostly forget the bad their side does, as long as they visit worse upon the enemy.
You can't in against an opponent that makes the rules that you follow, while following none of its own.
Only fire fights fire.
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masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
They'll ban welsh eventually too.
/v/KEK viewpost?postid=620d563145f25
masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
Instead of reading the diaries, you should be reading The Hunter.
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masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
Has the same feel as the "I hate the antichrist" memes.
/v/whatever viewpost?postid=620d7ab90c28e
masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
"A high capacity for violence is required for survival"
Europeans have that, its just two dysgenic wars were created to kill millions of our bravest and strongest.
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masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
"Congratulations soldier. We like you're enthusiasm. You've been promoted from private to RWDS rebel commander!"
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masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
"preplanned"
No, they only exploited the opportunity.
Can be done with any event that people may assume lead to death.
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masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
Diggernicks is an israeli zogbot here to alienate australians from americans and vice-versa.
Thats all I had to add.
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masuji 7 points 3.2 years ago
At least you still have your dolphins to fuck every day.
At 16 hours a day it's a thankless job. Thats a lot of dolphin fucking.
I bet your nickname is free willy.
Sorry about the newt fwiw.
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masuji 0 points 3.2 years ago
"You sir are a weak, timid, and untrustworthy homosexual."
God damn, what a fine line. Gotta remember that one.
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masuji 1 point 3.2 years ago
"C'mon man"
Bad timing.
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