Love I genuinely hope you put your money where your mouth is. Should it need said at anytime your own government can decide you were not a good goy and flip your power and water off. Yes thats a thing they can and will do. Prepare yourself.
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:31:28 ago (+1/-0)
I provide my own fuel (wood), power (solar panels and Tesla collectors), and water (a well and I now have a hand pump well as a backup).
Any faggot still hoping daddy gov and business doesn’t fuck them over deserves it. If that’s you and you’re trying to tell other people to shut up about it then you deserve the bullshit the gov throws at you.
Yes I grow my own food; veggies, fruit, and meats.
Tesla learned that our atmosphere and the earth interact essentially as a large battery. If you isolate a dish (think satellite dish with spikes on it) on an insulated mast (I use a wooden 4x4) then connect that dish with a wire all the way to a capacitor bank, that bank will slowly trickle charge. Then using a comparing circuit you can have those capacitors discharge into a marine deep-cycle battery that you use to power your home.
I was working on schematics before my boy was born. I’ll finish them and post how to build, maintain, and repair them as soon as it’s ready.
Oh no...what, we didn't order any gas because we decided to drain our underground storage reserves....and the pipes aren't filled with free gas we don't need to pay for!!!
How dare the evil ruskies require that they are paid for their gas right.
We're not ordering more gas. This has been the case for the year. 1 by 1 European gas supply contracts have not been renewed...but you already knew that didn't you Mr glow
The issue with nordstream 2, is that gazprom wants to use the pipeline that they paid for... The EU want to let them only use half of it, with the other half being reserved for other suppliers...
It's literally...'he cries out in pain as he hits you'
'puts barriers in-between russian gas supply and consumers and artificially limits supply' - "why aren't they supplying more gas"
Pay attention....this shit is propoganda at its finest.
OP posted link from a rag started and owned by the Dutch government
Yea nevermind that the government that runs that "paper" also owns Shell, which made a tidy €1.6 billion profit from gas sales in Q3 this year (and gas sales represents roughly half of its revenue...and that's not even in winter)
You are the one manipulating narratives.
We get the Gas we order...why are we not ordering gas?
Why are we draining reserves?
Why did you post an article, that deliberately misrepresents a gas delivery diversion as a gas supply throttle?
You e exposed yourself Mike...
Gonna have to do more than sling a few insults to have anyone think your not a card carrying glowie
Fucking hell girl, how much tax payer money have you just pissed up the wall?
I mean the fact that your referring to what I assume is Russia, in the same way as is common in the US intelligence community is just the absolute cherry on top.
This is more Jewish gamesmanship. They are playing Europeans against the russians. Gas prices always go up during winter, everywhere in the world. But they always spin this as Russians screwing over other white people.
Europe has nuclear power, they don't rely on fossil fuels. They have they ability to build energy storage facilities to even out seasonal cost fluctuations but they don't because it is not a real issue.
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 17:17:56 ago (+2/-1)
They did reduce supply, it's real.
Europe has nuclear power, they don't rely on fossil fuels.
That's not how it works. Even if Germany and other countries didn't go full retard shutting down nuclear plants gas would still be needed for heating, the infrastructure is not ready to go full electric.
How does Shell, a company with just under 30 installations sucking up North Sea gas (with one of them being a mega rig that's tapping 6 separate fields) benefit...
Didn't Europe with America at the helm sanction Russia non stop in the past decade and are still doing it? Isn't NATO at this very moment surrounding Russia and doing military drills simulating attacks on Russia right next to Russian borders? Isn't NATO currently expanding to Ukraine and putting missiles pointing at Russia right at their border? Provocation after provocation. Stop provoking Russia. Stop being American lap dog.
Are they pumping and supplying ALL of the gas we have asked them to pump? Yes
Have we decided to drain out underground storage capacity instead of ordering more gas from Russia? Yes
Is gazprom willing to supply more gas if Europe actually orders the gas, and creates a legal obligation to pay for it via contract (as ALL gas and oil is supplied)? Yes
Does the reduction of flow through the yamal pipeline... Have anything to do with the fact that the Ukrainian part of yamal is no longer being used to pipe gas to Bulgaria, and that has is coming through Turkish pipe and Austrian gas switch instead? Yes
Has the OP linked a propoganda hit piece, designed to push a false narrative...also yes.
I mean, you've linked a publication that's owned and funded by the Dutch foreign office...
Gosh it's almost like this article was written to order
The Moscow Times is an English-language online-only newspaper based in Moscow. It owned by Dutch publishers and is partially financed by the Dutch government, a fact that is often reflected in geopolitical questions. It is used to wash the Western angle in political questions and present them as native Russian views; it the first stop for story ideas for most foreign correspondents based in Russia.[1]
[ + ] binrobinrro
[ - ] binrobinrro 0 points 3.3 yearsDec 31, 2021 17:45:41 ago (+0/-0)
(Thanks, joe)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 11 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 13:54:17 ago (+11/-0)
Unforeseeable! /s
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 2 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 16:18:42 ago (+2/-0)
Should it need said at anytime your own government can decide you were not a good goy and flip your power and water off.
Yes thats a thing they can and will do.
Prepare yourself.
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:31:28 ago (+1/-0)
Any faggot still hoping daddy gov and business doesn’t fuck them over deserves it. If that’s you and you’re trying to tell other people to shut up about it then you deserve the bullshit the gov throws at you.
Yes I grow my own food; veggies, fruit, and meats.
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:36:09 ago (+1/-0)
I say it like a broken record because I mean it.
[ + ] anthonylancer
[ - ] anthonylancer 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 21:06:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 2 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 21:16:19 ago (+2/-0)*
I was working on schematics before my boy was born. I’ll finish them and post how to build, maintain, and repair them as soon as it’s ready.
[ + ] GoatsAdvocate
[ - ] GoatsAdvocate 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 21:55:48 ago (+0/-0)
Tesla company is fucking up my searches for Tesla collector
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 22:05:04 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] Kozel 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 21, 2021 03:10:54 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Her0n 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 21, 2021 11:23:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sleazy
[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 21, 2021 01:19:15 ago (+0/-0)
and that's by design
[ + ] anthonylancer
[ - ] anthonylancer 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 21, 2021 22:30:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 22, 2021 01:26:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:16:54 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 2 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:07:27 ago (+2/-0)
the price of a commodity is determined by supply and demand, less supply leads to a higher price
cue the mental gymnastics explaining how supplying the contractually obligated minimum is a good thing.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:15:53 ago (+2/-1)
How dare the evil ruskies require that they are paid for their gas right.
We're not ordering more gas. This has been the case for the year. 1 by 1 European gas supply contracts have not been renewed...but you already knew that didn't you Mr glow
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:17:36 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:18:36 ago (+2/-1)
Is glowie gonna get a talking to from her supervisor and now is upset with the goat that exposed her
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:33:35 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:40:24 ago (+0/-1)
I'm in Brexit britbongistan (currently known as the land of the free)
And besides, my shitposting on the internet loicense cost me 3 shillings - so might as well make the most of it.
And hey, not everyday you catch a live glowie
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 20:41:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 20:52:01 ago (+0/-0)
Op refuses to say, here and in chat, how he came across the article.
And it's funny to see the glowie squirm
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 5 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 17:28:37 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 4 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:23:57 ago (+6/-2)
It's literally...'he cries out in pain as he hits you'
'puts barriers in-between russian gas supply and consumers and artificially limits supply' - "why aren't they supplying more gas"
Pay attention....this shit is propoganda at its finest.
OP posted link from a rag started and owned by the Dutch government
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:58:04 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 2 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:09:01 ago (+3/-1)
You are the one manipulating narratives.
We get the Gas we order...why are we not ordering gas?
Why are we draining reserves?
Why did you post an article, that deliberately misrepresents a gas delivery diversion as a gas supply throttle?
You e exposed yourself Mike...
Gonna have to do more than sling a few insults to have anyone think your not a card carrying glowie
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:15:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:17:37 ago (+0/-1)
That the old guard of Europe are gaining money, and stand to lose money if gazprom are able to enter the market freely...
Which is exactly what I said in my "stupid" post
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:22:28 ago (+1/-0)
as if your shithole gas station of a country deserves any trade deals
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:29:32 ago (+0/-1)
Fucking hell girl, how much tax payer money have you just pissed up the wall?
I mean the fact that your referring to what I assume is Russia, in the same way as is common in the US intelligence community is just the absolute cherry on top.
Wonder if they can spot your glow from the ISS
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:47:47 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 20:03:23 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] canbot
[ - ] canbot 5 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 17:02:19 ago (+5/-0)
Europe has nuclear power, they don't rely on fossil fuels. They have they ability to build energy storage facilities to even out seasonal cost fluctuations but they don't because it is not a real issue.
This is propaganda.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 17:17:56 ago (+2/-1)
That's not how it works. Even if Germany and other countries didn't go full retard shutting down nuclear plants gas would still be needed for heating, the infrastructure is not ready to go full electric.
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:38:54 ago (+1/-2)
Are you getting played or trying to play us?
Which is it, because you're posting propoganda that was paid for by gazprom competitor Shell.
Do you own shares in that shit or something?
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:11:59 ago (+1/-0)
oh yeah? explain how Shell benefits, do people look at the labels on the gas and go "nah, that's commie gas"?
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast -1 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 20:00:29 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:28:20 ago (+2/-1)
Moscow times started and owned by Dutch gov (who also own competitor shell)
The pipeline is being bypassed because it goes through Ukraine (Bulgarias gas now coming through turkey and Austrian gas switch)
Also...
Russian gas imports are down... because we're ordering less.
Every therm of gas we have asked the Russians for, they have supplied.
We've been draining underground gas storage instead
[ + ] fooke
[ - ] fooke 3 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:06:54 ago (+3/-0)
Stop provoking Russia. Stop being American lap dog.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 2 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:47:44 ago (+2/-0)
Russia on the other hand has had real soldiers for years larping as separatists.
[ + ] gimpyoldman
[ - ] gimpyoldman 3 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 12:31:10 ago (+3/-0)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-summit-pipeline/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VI
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 2 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:11:50 ago (+3/-1)
Are they pumping and supplying ALL of the gas we have asked them to pump? Yes
Have we decided to drain out underground storage capacity instead of ordering more gas from Russia? Yes
Is gazprom willing to supply more gas if Europe actually orders the gas, and creates a legal obligation to pay for it via contract (as ALL gas and oil is supplied)? Yes
Does the reduction of flow through the yamal pipeline... Have anything to do with the fact that the Ukrainian part of yamal is no longer being used to pipe gas to Bulgaria, and that has is coming through Turkish pipe and Austrian gas switch instead? Yes
Has the OP linked a propoganda hit piece, designed to push a false narrative...also yes.
I mean, you've linked a publication that's owned and funded by the Dutch foreign office...
Gosh it's almost like this article was written to order
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger [op] 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:55:38 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] WanderingToast
[ - ] WanderingToast 0 points 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 19:00:12 ago (+1/-1)
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[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 18:35:05 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] iSmokeMemes
[ - ] iSmokeMemes 1 point 3.4 yearsDec 20, 2021 14:42:11 ago (+1/-0)
"...Bro."