'Ukrainian casualties soar: Kiev loses 5,600 troops in seven days – Widespread use of thermobaric by Russian artillery (vid)' - - Upgoat

'Ukrainian casualties soar: Kiev loses 5,600 troops in seven days – Widespread use of thermobaric by Russian artillery (vid)' -
submitted by Sector2 to Ukraine 3 monthsJan 20, 2024 21:22:18 ago (+13/-4) (warnews247-gr.translate.goog)
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/afxithikan-ragdaia-oi-oukranikes-apoleies-to-kievo-echase-5-600-stratiotes-se-epta-imeres-evreia-chrisi-thermovarikon-apo-to-rosiko-pyrovoliko-vid/?_x_tr_sl=el&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

Link to TOS-1A heavy flamethrower system video - https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=65ac7fb99197e

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 3 points 3 monthsJan 20, 2024 23:20:32 ago (+3/-0)

Can’t be true. I heard they are winning. It’s why Zelenski is begging for more money and weapons. So much winning.

[ - ] Outlaw_Aryan 2 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 00:25:15 ago (+2/-0)

And if you ask a liberal he'll tell you exactly that and insist on sending more money, even if taxes have to go up! No thought for Americans.

[ + ] Sector2

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 12:18:33 ago (+1/-0)

It's the desperation to appear winning that cost them tens of thousands of strategically pointless deaths. Then elensky went too far with the attacks on Russian cities, and the US support dried up.

[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 3 monthsJan 20, 2024 22:24:17 ago (+3/-0)

Zelensky was in Davos offering a peace deal.

Terms,

1. Russia out of Ukraine
2. Russia out of Crimea

"To the last Ukrainian." Zelensky and Lindsey Graham

They were not being hyperbolic. This is the European Israel coming into existence.

[ + ] mxcviel

[ - ] mxcviel 3 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 02:25:23 ago (+3/-0)

This is the European Israel coming into existence

This is exactly their plan, yes. Specially if they could somehow get in trough EU, cancer would spread much cheaper as they did in US after WW2.
But I'd not bet on that plan.

[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 3 monthsJan 20, 2024 23:26:40 ago (+0/-0)

Lebensraum For jews? Cool. Move all of them there when it’s all ready and done.

[ + ] Sector2

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 13:57:00 ago (+0/-0)

At first, Russia was okay with the invaders just leaving western Russia and stopping the attacks. Now they plan on taking back the whole territory.

If they do take it all back into Russia, we can suspect they're not part of the cabal plan. Russia is still infested by jews though, so we'll see.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 15:40:09 ago (+1/-0)

I hadn't seen any official suggestion that Russia intends to retake Ukraine. I see them doing what they said they would and establishing the donbass as independent or under russian control of they vote to rejoin Russia.

[ + ] Sector2

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 15:45:05 ago (+0/-0)*

"Bomb" Medvedev: "Ukraine will be erased from the map and will join the Russian Commonwealth" - https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/vomva-mentventef-entaxi-tis-oukranias-sti-rosiki-koinopoliteia-den-tha-yparxei-kamia-oukrania-sta-istorika-rosika-edafi-stochos-xana-to-kievo/?_x_tr_sl=el&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

Russia offered them a far better deal in the spring of 2022.

"Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev is a Russian politician who became deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia in 2020. Medvedev was also president of Russia between 2008 and 2012 and prime minister of Russia between 2012 and 2020. Medvedev was elected president in the 2008 election."

Not some random Russian saying this, although he could be playing the bad cop.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 15:57:04 ago (+1/-0)

The existence of Ukraine is mortally dangerous for Ukrainians. And I don't just mean the current state, the political regime of Bandera. I'm talking about any, absolutely any Ukraine.

This can happen in ten or fifty years. That is why the existence of Ukraine is fatal for Ukrainians.

So, I don't know who or what "war news 24/7" even is, but I'd like to see the actual conversation and see what Medvedev actually said.

Nothing against you, here, but this seems like a shit source with, and the western country media has been caught dozens of times, now, lying their ass off about Putin and Medvedev have said about Ukraine, complete with bullshit quotes.

But even so, it seems like they are saying that Ukraine will continue fighting until their government falls and the people will want to rejoin Russia instead of continuing to allow a western backed government to get their people killed for nothing.

[ + ] Sector2

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 16:22:25 ago (+0/-0)

The vice-president of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev spoke about the total disappearance of Ukraine from the map and its inclusion in a “Russian Commonwealth” in a post on Telegram.

I'm not subbed to his channel so can't confirm. But between the two, Putin definitely plays the good cop compared to Medvedev.

"war news 24/7" is a Greek site that's generally pro-Russia.

[ - ] boekanier 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 01:34:34 ago (+1/-0)*

they (?) let ukraine fight until the last of their soldiers are consumed. Then the nato takes action and we have a devastating WW on our plate. Unless... they get scared in the last resort, because where as an elite can you still take shelter?

[ + ] Sector2

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 12:05:55 ago (+0/-0)

It's hard to know if they're really contemplating a devastating WW, or if the backchannel agreement between the Russians and CIA to avoid red lines will hold. elensky obviously wants to pull NATO in and has been going rogue, which is speculated as the real reason support has dried up.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 15:41:55 ago (+0/-0)

Nato will not fight Russia. That's too much of a risk. They can't win.

[ - ] mikenigger -1 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 02:29:32 ago (+0/-1)

Current operators
Russia – ~45 TOS-1A and a number of TOS-2 before the war. New batches of TOS-1A were delivered in September and November 2022. At least 19 lost in combat

sure bud, the wunderwaffen with a range of 6 miles is stacking bodies over a 600 mile long frontline

[ + ] big_fat_dangus

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 05:49:38 ago (+1/-0)

lmao I knew you'd be in here seething and coping. Death to jewkraine 😉

[ + ] Sector2

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 11:59:05 ago (+0/-0)

Nah, it pretty much scatters them around the fortification area. It's the soldiers who stack them up in those piles you see.

[ - ] Rowdybme -1 points 3 monthsJan 20, 2024 23:24:06 ago (+1/-2)

Lol took them long enough. Russia has done such a piss poor job. There is no saving face at this point.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 15:46:05 ago (+1/-0)

What? Russia established their lines in the first month and Ukraine is killing itself over a few square miles one way or the other.

Now, Ukraine is just losing. The average age of the Ukraine military is now 43. They are conscription men in their 50's and are starting to conscript women.

[ + ] Sector2

[ - ] Sector2 [op] 0 points 3 monthsJan 21, 2024 12:15:22 ago (+0/-0)

I dunno about piss poor. Their 'active defense' has ground though a few hundred thousand Ukrainians who can less afford it. They take territory when the grind slacks off too much.

I know what you mean about it being an annoyingly 'slow' strategy though.

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