I believe you might have taken just ONE of my TWO points. Actually my primary argument was to have THEM articulate a basis for why something is true (as a rebuttal). Such as:
"I'm interested, can you please help me understand how an increase in young homosexuals is good for the children or society?"
The second point (especially if they are in a crowd) came in because if you follow such an approach you will best them almost every time because they can't articulate the basis (such as "If A, then B") for what they actually believe, you will find yourself attacked by "anonymous" sources or just right there out of rage.
I have had many discussions with "high level" people and while they often admit they can't raise a basis but will proceed as if their conclusion is true anyway. Such as:
I would argue that really it's the world bank, controlling NATO, which controls both israel and the USA governments and military. But, from our perspective it could be any of the above and the results are the same
The answer is in any number of documents. I recommend reading the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" for starters. Then, check out the 1993 UN documents from Rio. Then, check out "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars" followed by anything from the WEF and the Club of Rome.
They're literally all the same document, just repackaged.
Things are burning down, but shadowy videos without an actual NAME associated with any perpetrator. "It's muslims" ... no "It's Jews" ... no "It's Freemasons" ... no "It's the White Patriarchy".
I have a friend from canuckistan that showed me photos from a BLM like protest but before BLM. He showed me photos that him and another survielled a few notable people with, and without their masks on. It turned out they are aids for a couple of local politicians. One was an actual out of town member of parlaiment. He had photos showing thier shoes, pants and shirts pegged perfectly and was in several places talking to many people with and without the mask on. But, sprinkled in was a bunch of token black and indian ('native american') brainwashed commies. Everyone was led to believe it was the "first nations" (the fake name the canadian government uses for all the indians in canada) when really it was actual government officials.
It's easy to let the viewers fill in all the blanks. This way nobody will ever be taken to account on the matter and everyone will just move on and let the subversion creep along.
I agree there are many videos. There are many videos of moon landings and nuclear weapons too.
I'm not trying to be one of those "skeptics" either. I'm just looking for basis on what is real. I see a video, I see what it looks like. But, how are all these vides just "getting out"?
What is MORE likely is a real estate grab and relocation program. There is a very large effort to scare the animals off the plantation (so to speak).
Also, consider the many "harvests" from the people in that area. For example, harvest meaning something like this: https://old.bitchute.com/video/Ek6sIEL5TRaO/
Imagine how scared everyone will be of drones and how they will believe that the drones flying around their cities in a few years could just "kill them" at the drop of a hat.
Mind control.
Also, on another tangent. Consider that if anyone shows up in your neighborhood saying they are a refugee from a war in ukraine to "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!" This sounds harsh to some, but I know from personal family experience what the whole "refugee" system is. It is simply deracination.
What soldier would be all decked out like that in such an environment alone? Then, there is the "hidden camera" part of it ... the footage just got released by accident?? I can just hear the generals saying:
> Yeah guys, just go out there in the fields all decked out and shoot at drones with pea shooters
This seems like a fake show in order to make people believe the "ukraine war" is anything but a population relocation and real estate grab.
If I was tasked and had a modest budget, I could produce a video as good as this one. I'm sure.
> from everything I've experienced and read they can't be helped unless there is a godly intervention involved.
Pretty much. I have found that narcissists will mimic to fit in, but don't actually have anything (or what non-narcissists have) going on morally. They're the equivalent of the Alex DeLarge character, from A Clockwork Orange.
In my life I manage narcissists by holding them to VERY TIGHT contracts. If they can't comply, they don't get more chances until they renegotiate past any previous unmitigated transgressions. That said, I am finding that the overall solipsism people who are distracted (this is what I meant by "enchanted") seem to become is functionally similar to a narcissist and similar management techniques work.
Other "godly intervention" could be as simple as never doing business with them ... but if they have somewhere to go for affirmation then they never learn to change. The sea of affirmation people are living through often makes them addicts of it, and they functionally act the same as a clinical narcissist. This is (for example) the major reason we don't allow smartphones in our home.
I've tried this to mixed results. It could work depending on the relationship and temperance of the NPC in particular. This stance is the way one would for sure want to get their 'debate opponent' (for lack of a better term) to get into.
For example, have THEM provide and articulate the basis like at the level stated (like the problems with being homosexual). Have them articulate WHY more gay children is better for the children, and society.
It is my pleasure. Protect yourself if you argue openly with these people. They will (by sending the mob at you) attack you from the shadows.
It is all very similar to learning to deal with "clinical" narcissists. You may find the term "flying monkeys" handy. This is essentially the secret sauce for mao's "struggle sessions". Basically, the situation by shadowy figures is "set" but the idea of "debate" is dangled before the population. Each time you win an argument and shit happens anyway will notch away at your desire to argue with the.
I think you raise a valid concern for sure, and being in NYC may program a person to not see the hell they are living around.
There ARE fantastic WOMEN out there. Definitely less of them, but note that there are also very few MEN around. Act like a MAN and insist women around you or near you act like WOMEN and she will show up.
The BigGayQueenFromNYC seemed to have a few things going for himself, but his urges (or, more correctly, his inability to withhold his urges) is why he is living in hell today.
You can't argue with the enchanted. That said, we can improve upon the argument by rebutting:
> Why would you want these people to genocide themselves? Why would you have them be happy where they aught not be happy?
Keep the conversations QUANTITATIVE (avoid QUALITATIVE) and have them give you the STATISTICAL basis.
Note that the first "person 1" statement was also a QUALITATIVE OPINION. Try a more "cutting" first statement like so:
> It is concerning how young people are so lost that they are turning to homosexuality at younger and younger ages.
See, in this case, the problem isn't "homosexuality" (NPCs have been programmed to attack if this is stated) but the problem for them to rebut is (either):
1. young people are lost
2. people are turning to homosexuality BECAUSE they are lost
Any rebuttal they provide requires data. Have them provide it and show you the proper argument. When it gets heated, start asking them to articulate (like the questions above).
Also, I want to provide an important quote:
> The great masses can be rescued, but only by sacrificing much time and patience.
> But a Jew can never be parted from his opinions.
>It was simple enough, at that time, to try to show them the absurdity of their teaching. Within my small circle, I talked to them until my throat ached and my voice grew hoarse. I believed that I could finally convince them of the danger inherent in Marxist foolishness. But I only achieved the contrary result. It seemed that the more they understood the destructiveness of Social-Democratic doctrine and its consequences, the more firmly they clung to it.
> The more I debated with them, the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents; but when they got so tied up that they couldn't find a way out, they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should that fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they couldn't understand the counter arguments, and jumped away to another topic of discussion. They stated truisms and platitudes; and if you accepted these, they applied them to other matters of an essentially different nature. If you pointed this out, they escaped again and avoided any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on one of these apostles, one 's hand grasped only a jelly like slimer-that slipped through the fingers, and then recombined into a solid mass a moment later.
> But if you really struck a blow on one of these adversaries and, due to the audience present, he had to concede the point, a surprise was in store for you the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before. He would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. If you became indignant and reminded him of yesterday's defeat, he feigned astonishment, and couldn't remember a thing-except that on the day before, he was proven correct.
> Sometimes I was simply dumbfounded.
> I don't know what amazed me more: the agility of their speech or their art of lying.
> I gradually came to hate them.
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf - Dalton Translation.
Note that the above is about "jews" but actually is about anyone that is "jewed up". Your tranny-allied aquantances are the same as the marxist-jews that Hitler was talking about.
Indeed. I was very surprised by this. I also found there is a perpetual war with magpies and squirrels. If you have old apples or a pile of peanuts you can see how each behave and they try to sabatoge each other.
Dingo 2 points 4 months ago
I could have sworn I read somewhere that Roosevelt was a name change from Rosenbaum ... but I could be mistaken.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
I believe you might have taken just ONE of my TWO points. Actually my primary argument was to have THEM articulate a basis for why something is true (as a rebuttal). Such as:
"I'm interested, can you please help me understand how an increase in young homosexuals is good for the children or society?"
The second point (especially if they are in a crowd) came in because if you follow such an approach you will best them almost every time because they can't articulate the basis (such as "If A, then B") for what they actually believe, you will find yourself attacked by "anonymous" sources or just right there out of rage.
I have had many discussions with "high level" people and while they often admit they can't raise a basis but will proceed as if their conclusion is true anyway. Such as:
"You're right, but I have a business to run"
or some other bullshit post-hoc argument.
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Dingo 0 points 4 months ago
> Because Israel control the entire world
I would argue that really it's the world bank, controlling NATO, which controls both israel and the USA governments and military. But, from our perspective it could be any of the above and the results are the same
> and the US is its golem.
^ pretty much this.
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Dingo 2 points 4 months ago
The answer is in any number of documents. I recommend reading the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" for starters. Then, check out the 1993 UN documents from Rio. Then, check out "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars" followed by anything from the WEF and the Club of Rome.
They're literally all the same document, just repackaged.
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Dingo -2 points 4 months ago
> You are not going to survive all that is coming
You will survive for now, because several people want you in the matrix ... until your organs are also harvested, which is fine.
> Fuck off.
Just an amazing argument there. You seem very triggered ... and glowy.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
Yes, there are drones. Glad we can at least agree on something.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
> I'm butthurt because my ideas and feelings are not affirmed on some off-center forum site.
It's going to be OK. Perhaps you may want to chill on the internet for a while if you can't handle yourself.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
Things are burning down, but shadowy videos without an actual NAME associated with any perpetrator. "It's muslims" ... no "It's Jews" ... no "It's Freemasons" ... no "It's the White Patriarchy".
I have a friend from canuckistan that showed me photos from a BLM like protest but before BLM. He showed me photos that him and another survielled a few notable people with, and without their masks on. It turned out they are aids for a couple of local politicians. One was an actual out of town member of parlaiment. He had photos showing thier shoes, pants and shirts pegged perfectly and was in several places talking to many people with and without the mask on. But, sprinkled in was a bunch of token black and indian ('native american') brainwashed commies. Everyone was led to believe it was the "first nations" (the fake name the canadian government uses for all the indians in canada) when really it was actual government officials.
It's easy to let the viewers fill in all the blanks. This way nobody will ever be taken to account on the matter and everyone will just move on and let the subversion creep along.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
I agree there are many videos. There are many videos of moon landings and nuclear weapons too.
I'm not trying to be one of those "skeptics" either. I'm just looking for basis on what is real. I see a video, I see what it looks like. But, how are all these vides just "getting out"?
What is MORE likely is a real estate grab and relocation program. There is a very large effort to scare the animals off the plantation (so to speak).
Also, consider the many "harvests" from the people in that area. For example, harvest meaning something like this: https://old.bitchute.com/video/Ek6sIEL5TRaO/
Imagine how scared everyone will be of drones and how they will believe that the drones flying around their cities in a few years could just "kill them" at the drop of a hat.
Mind control.
Also, on another tangent. Consider that if anyone shows up in your neighborhood saying they are a refugee from a war in ukraine to "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY!" This sounds harsh to some, but I know from personal family experience what the whole "refugee" system is. It is simply deracination.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
This trick also works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dXFS6piv58
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Dingo -1 points 4 months ago
What soldier would be all decked out like that in such an environment alone? Then, there is the "hidden camera" part of it ... the footage just got released by accident?? I can just hear the generals saying:
> Yeah guys, just go out there in the fields all decked out and shoot at drones with pea shooters
This seems like a fake show in order to make people believe the "ukraine war" is anything but a population relocation and real estate grab.
If I was tasked and had a modest budget, I could produce a video as good as this one. I'm sure.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
Great stuff in these threads.
> In this argument you are pointing out that without accepted norms or standards of behavior we weaken what society is or meant to be.
Very well articulated.
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Dingo 0 points 4 months ago
> from everything I've experienced and read they can't be helped unless there is a godly intervention involved.
Pretty much. I have found that narcissists will mimic to fit in, but don't actually have anything (or what non-narcissists have) going on morally. They're the equivalent of the Alex DeLarge character, from A Clockwork Orange.
In my life I manage narcissists by holding them to VERY TIGHT contracts. If they can't comply, they don't get more chances until they renegotiate past any previous unmitigated transgressions. That said, I am finding that the overall solipsism people who are distracted (this is what I meant by "enchanted") seem to become is functionally similar to a narcissist and similar management techniques work.
Other "godly intervention" could be as simple as never doing business with them ... but if they have somewhere to go for affirmation then they never learn to change. The sea of affirmation people are living through often makes them addicts of it, and they functionally act the same as a clinical narcissist. This is (for example) the major reason we don't allow smartphones in our home.
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Dingo 0 points 4 months ago
I've tried this to mixed results. It could work depending on the relationship and temperance of the NPC in particular. This stance is the way one would for sure want to get their 'debate opponent' (for lack of a better term) to get into.
For example, have THEM provide and articulate the basis like at the level stated (like the problems with being homosexual). Have them articulate WHY more gay children is better for the children, and society.
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Dingo 0 points 4 months ago
The words here seem sound, but it seems the context is lost?
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
It is my pleasure. Protect yourself if you argue openly with these people. They will (by sending the mob at you) attack you from the shadows.
It is all very similar to learning to deal with "clinical" narcissists. You may find the term "flying monkeys" handy. This is essentially the secret sauce for mao's "struggle sessions". Basically, the situation by shadowy figures is "set" but the idea of "debate" is dangled before the population. Each time you win an argument and shit happens anyway will notch away at your desire to argue with the.
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Dingo 0 points 4 months ago
If it was murder by cannibalism, I'd believe it.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
I think you raise a valid concern for sure, and being in NYC may program a person to not see the hell they are living around.
There ARE fantastic WOMEN out there. Definitely less of them, but note that there are also very few MEN around. Act like a MAN and insist women around you or near you act like WOMEN and she will show up.
The BigGayQueenFromNYC seemed to have a few things going for himself, but his urges (or, more correctly, his inability to withhold his urges) is why he is living in hell today.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
You can't argue with the enchanted. That said, we can improve upon the argument by rebutting:
> Why would you want these people to genocide themselves? Why would you have them be happy where they aught not be happy?
Keep the conversations QUANTITATIVE (avoid QUALITATIVE) and have them give you the STATISTICAL basis.
Note that the first "person 1" statement was also a QUALITATIVE OPINION. Try a more "cutting" first statement like so:
> It is concerning how young people are so lost that they are turning to homosexuality at younger and younger ages.
See, in this case, the problem isn't "homosexuality" (NPCs have been programmed to attack if this is stated) but the problem for them to rebut is (either):
1. young people are lost
2. people are turning to homosexuality BECAUSE they are lost
Any rebuttal they provide requires data. Have them provide it and show you the proper argument. When it gets heated, start asking them to articulate (like the questions above).
Also, I want to provide an important quote:
> The great masses can be rescued, but only by sacrificing much time and patience.
> But a Jew can never be parted from his opinions.
>It was simple enough, at that time, to try to show them the absurdity of their teaching. Within my small circle, I talked to them until my throat ached and my voice grew hoarse. I believed that I could finally convince them of the danger inherent in Marxist foolishness. But I only achieved the contrary result. It seemed that the more they understood the destructiveness of Social-Democratic doctrine and its consequences, the more firmly they clung to it.
> The more I debated with them, the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents; but when they got so tied up that they couldn't find a way out, they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should that fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they couldn't understand the counter arguments, and jumped away to another topic of discussion. They stated truisms and platitudes; and if you accepted these, they applied them to other matters of an essentially different nature. If you pointed this out, they escaped again and avoided any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on one of these apostles, one 's hand grasped only a jelly like slimer-that slipped through the fingers, and then recombined into a solid mass a moment later.
> But if you really struck a blow on one of these adversaries and, due to the audience present, he had to concede the point, a surprise was in store for you the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before. He would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. If you became indignant and reminded him of yesterday's defeat, he feigned astonishment, and couldn't remember a thing-except that on the day before, he was proven correct.
> Sometimes I was simply dumbfounded.
> I don't know what amazed me more: the agility of their speech or their art of lying.
> I gradually came to hate them.
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf - Dalton Translation.
Note that the above is about "jews" but actually is about anyone that is "jewed up". Your tranny-allied aquantances are the same as the marxist-jews that Hitler was talking about.
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Dingo 0 points 4 months ago
I don't mean this as an insult to you per se, but given many of your posts it is pretty clear you seek "whores" and that is why you find them.
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Dingo 0 points 4 months ago
> DEW Laser
I assure you, this is a red herring. Do you want to know what DEW weapons actually are?
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
Just curious what makes you think muslims burned down Notre Dame?
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Dingo 2 points 4 months ago
> How Government Works
Or:
> Why Government Doesn't Work.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
Indeed. I was very surprised by this. I also found there is a perpetual war with magpies and squirrels. If you have old apples or a pile of peanuts you can see how each behave and they try to sabatoge each other.
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Dingo 1 point 4 months ago
This is actually a good idea.
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