With a name like that I'd almost second guess it's a spoof article. Then again, if it is actually Tyrone Goldberg, he was probably tired of getting turned down.
That's actually a very good question!
I am recalling information from University some two decades back. Any of the books I read on the subject would have been in the University library with that slick marbling on the inbound cover and occasionally the paper edges. I'm afraid I don't have much of a bibliography on hand. Not that I was up to snuff on the JQ in uni.
If I were to research this particular topic afresh, it would be from a complainery aspect. Like, "how rayciss were the Byzantines, oy vey" type searches.
Sorry not to be of more help.
Ulexite. A personal fave. It's also known as TV stone. The big white crystals if uncut look impressive. Like something you could see on top of a wizard's staff. It takes light very well. So well in fact that if it's cut and polished right it can act like a stack of fiber-optic. I have a cut and uncut version of the stone. I prefer the big one, but the small, cut one can lift text off a page.
I'm expecting a spoof alien invasion.
"Aliens are here and they are all for everything our corporations have been saying for years. They are very pro-tranny and vote democrat."
I would say nobody knows for sure at this point. The folks that croak tend to be the over jabbers and not their wives or husbands. I do recall feeling off around jabees especially the Mod and Pfz varieties. There's a certain aura some of them give off. It's similar to the vibe you get in an old folks home. It's not quite the same as death, but it doesn't feel like health.
Then again, I don't know if I'm psyching myself out about it.
Game theory wise, I really don't think the 'they' would have made anything that could harm them. Something that can contaminate others would fall into that category. Unless the 'they' in question are already sipping adrenochrome laced coolers in their underground forts.
Ok. The holocaust never happened. It is mathematically impossible to dispose of so many bodies. The best video I ever saw on the matter is some two hour job that goes over the original sources.
Am I a bot? Am I a jew? The jury's out. Whatever the case may be, I'm not hearing strong rebuttal arguments.
Let my argument stand or fall on their own merits. The truth does not fear investigation. Investigate the globe with at least as much intensity as you would the holocaust fraud.
How do you prove that it is motion of the earth that causes this? That's the issue. The cause is presumed.
The trouble is we are moving at 1000 mph at the equator. We don't detect that motion. We are also moving 67000 mph around the sun. We don't detect that motion either. Because the earth is spinning against the movement around the sun day vs night, there should be a +- 1000 mph speed difference from the 67000 in alternating day/night cycles.
And yet, we don't experience that. We don't measure that. And somehow a gyroscope is supposed to get me to ignore that?
If all the world's scientists were certain in their heart of hearts that the earth moves, they will include into anything they find that would seem to prove the opposite some counter acting force so as to create a working equation. This doesn't prove that the counteracting force exists. If you take Occam's razor to heart, 'Entities should not be multiplied endlessly' then you can safely eliminate all of those neutralizing forces and just keep with the base observations.
It is the sky that moves over the earth. Gyroscopes detect the motion of the field of the sky. That is the simplest answer.
You're welcome to think I'm a bot. You're also welcome to watch a video on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t30-YbayyXE
This video will include visual aids for your benefit if you are having a hard time understanding verbal descriptions.
Accusations of 'you're a bot' will be the next 'you're a jew' deflection comments. It's very like Saul Alinsky to accuse the other of what you yourself are guilty of.
If you can't understand the argument, that's on you. And to be fair, it is nearly impossible for someone who believes in the globe worldview more than anything else to imagine anything else. It doesn't make them smart or stupid. They've been 1984d. They've been golemmed. It's not so much their fault as it is the fault of the liars. Where it becomes their responsibility is when confronted with a different idea, they need to examine things for truth for truth's sake. Sadly many people don't know how to do that and a scientific education is actually very bad at the philosophical groundwork necessary for truth. It's relative truth: is this model better or that model better? The field of pure mathematics still has a concept of truth because that's built into the hardware of that science. The above argument is a simplification of a mathematical proof that states: no matter what the shape of the sky, observation dictates that it is possible to have multiple people at different locations on earth observe a visual phenomenon.
Here's the lazypedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticrepuscular_rays
Of main interest are the photographs.
Do you see how all of those lines appear to converge to a point? There is nothing emanating from that point. The sun is on the other side of the sky. The light rays are converging to that point.
No matter what you view the sky as, whether you think the earth is a ball or a plane or a cosmic sandwich, that phenomena is observable, it exists, and it can be photographed. Whatever the sun actually is, whether it be billions of miles away and large, very near and small, or whatever else you may wish to model it as, it's light rays can appear to converge to a point.
Now imagine if you can that you can make those light rays spin. To rotate over your head the way the night sky changes over the course of the night bringing new stars into view. Would every observer still see all of those lines converging to a point? Yes. Turning big stripes in the sky should have no effect on the matter.
Now instead imagine that the source of this celestial pinwheel is at the north star instead of at one end of the sky. It is even higher than the light source that creates the sun and turns beyond the field of view. What would happen to those bands caused by the pinwheel? Should they do anything other than converge to a point?
I am a flat earther. More accurately, I'm an anti-glober. I was a holocaust skeptic before that.
If you are able to be as skeptical of the stories told about the world we live in as you are about the holocaust, you might find yourself thinking unsanctioned thoughts about the earth.
If you go into it with the attitude, "Of course the earth is a ball." You'll get the same result as going into holocaust research with the attitude "Jews are our greatest ally."
Yes, there are plenty of numbskull flat earthers. And those are now the only ones the algorithm will let you see. Public flat earthers tend towards outliers in all categories. Being vocal and being smart do not always align. The smart ones are out there, but the more effective ones get sniped by the same systems that snipe holocaust discussions. While they aren't as hard censored from the various platforms as you get with holocaust questioning, you don't see them unless you know where to look. I can make recommendations at the end of this post.
As for your position, in every case you grade the flat earther a numbskull you take as a given that the earth is a ball and that "they don't understand how the earth is a globe." That is incorrect. Should there be detectable motion if the world were spinning? That is the question. If there isn't something and there should be, what would liars and people who believe the lie do?
Now, should there be detectable bodies if the holocaust actually happened? Yes, absolutely. And when people go to look, either they find nothing or they run into the law that prevents them from looking. The difference between the holocaust and the globe is that anyone can investigate the claims of the globe anywhere. You just have to be able to ask questions of the globe. Asking questions of the flat earth is asking the wrong questions. What you are doing is laughing at people for asking questions they don't know how to ask, because they've been lied to their whole lives and don't know how to ask the questions.
The main recommendation I have is Sky Free. They are a husband and wife duo on youtube who steer clear of much of the algorithmic censorship by sticking to observational testing. They are able to replicate the visual phenomenon of boats "going over the curve" on a small scale over a known flat surface using temperature and humidity changes. They really don't have much to critique or call them idiots on because all they do is make observations, measure it, and report the findings and compare it to macro scale observation phenomena.
An older channel is Ajaycee 1844. You'll need to search for that exact title to find it or click here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCucOqhlu-peCXdiwy8VTwuw
As they are an older channel, they concern themselves with questions that began to develop among the early flat earth groups that sprang up in the early 2010s. Questions of the map are topics of early videos, and questions of the sky topics of later ones. It lays out a perfectly understandable view of the geocentric sky. The early videos discuss some of the philosophical questions you come to when first really asking questions.
One of my absolute top videos to recommend isn't particularly about flat earth but about space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTzF2mgBRLk
It isn't a direct refutation. It's just suspect that this isn't a common thing already. It provides a challenge and is very well edited. The challenge has yet to be met and my position is that it is impossible.
I know a fair bit about the history of the contemporary flat earth movement whether you believe it or not. I can refer you to other links if you are interested and would otherwise have trouble finding on your own.
What would happen if this got 'OK''d like the OK sign had?
"This red string around my wrist represents the blood of Christ who died for my sins. I wear it to remember the king of the Jews who sacrificed his life for me."
Turn everything jewish into Christian symbols when they usually try to make Christian symbols wicked.
I'm pretty sure jews would kvetch over that.
A little bit of a tangent, but any of these space shuttle launches would be great cover for launching an attack. They could be firing that thing anywhere in the world and it could wreck somebody's day. Meanwhile people at the launch site are cheering it on oblivious to the destruction.
You only have the word of the people shooting large, combustible obects into the sky at speed that it's going to space. And people would get upset if you didn't shoot the thing off.
Sky Free has an excellent series collecting data and observations on the subject.
Here is a summary video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3h00DXoLS0
In short: The phenomenon of "boats disappearing over the edge" can be reproduced over known flat surfaces at smaller scale. The conclusion is that the environmental factors of temperature and humidity have more to do with what causes objects to appear to sink than a physical dropping away of the land/water.
The timing of this is suspect.
It came out right as soon as the market tanked. Coincidentally, right when Moishe needs people to not put all their cash into gold, a story comes out that makes gold look like a bum deal for panicky people who don't read more than the headlines.
Also: You think you can mine Africa? By the time you get your mine up and running the current head dude who didn't make any contracts with you says gimme dat and now you have no mine and no gold. You would need a substantial stable population and government. South Africa, sure, there's whites there for now. But Uganda?
No thanks. I'll continue putting money into precious metals while the getting's good.
This was generated from /pol/ globohomo art general or GAG a year or two ago in January. The website or article could well have been generated by an anon, but the meme did gain traction and start to filter so it may well have been picked up by a genuine sjw or tranny for an article.
The GAG was a project dedicated to subverting the bland art style commonly seen with bubble-bean people in vector graphic styles that is now incredibly pervasive. It got quashed hard. Even so, many of the memes are now seen in the wild like this one and taken completely seriously.
This originated as a parody, but there is a small chance it's been adopted by those it's targeting.
It's a group of people that get pushed from main stream platforms. Of course it's going to find it's way to new voat. They get algorithmically filtered on jewtube, they get booted from many of the chans, they're going to come here. It's obvious.
dicedice 0 points 2.4 years ago
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/01/norm-macdonald-tweet-resurfaces-to-smash-democrats-january-6th-narrative-into-a-million-pieces/
Here. Have some tweets.
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dicedice 4 points 2.4 years ago
With a name like that I'd almost second guess it's a spoof article. Then again, if it is actually Tyrone Goldberg, he was probably tired of getting turned down.
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dicedice 0 points 2.4 years ago
That's actually a very good question!
I am recalling information from University some two decades back. Any of the books I read on the subject would have been in the University library with that slick marbling on the inbound cover and occasionally the paper edges. I'm afraid I don't have much of a bibliography on hand. Not that I was up to snuff on the JQ in uni.
If I were to research this particular topic afresh, it would be from a complainery aspect. Like, "how rayciss were the Byzantines, oy vey" type searches.
Sorry not to be of more help.
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dicedice 1 point 2.4 years ago
The Byzantines didn't let jews operate in the areas of education, money, or civics. They lasted a very long time.
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dicedice 0 points 2.4 years ago
Way to subvert my expectations!
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dicedice 0 points 2.4 years ago
Ulexite. A personal fave. It's also known as TV stone. The big white crystals if uncut look impressive. Like something you could see on top of a wizard's staff. It takes light very well. So well in fact that if it's cut and polished right it can act like a stack of fiber-optic. I have a cut and uncut version of the stone. I prefer the big one, but the small, cut one can lift text off a page.
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dicedice 3 points 2.4 years ago
Boss level memery.
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dicedice 1 point 2.5 years ago
It's not a new word. It's just getting into the popular vernacular. Overton window shift detected.
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dicedice 1 point 2.5 years ago
I'm expecting a spoof alien invasion.
"Aliens are here and they are all for everything our corporations have been saying for years. They are very pro-tranny and vote democrat."
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dicedice 5 points 2.6 years ago
In lore, if you know a demon's true name you can summon or control it.
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dicedice 3 points 2.6 years ago
I would say nobody knows for sure at this point. The folks that croak tend to be the over jabbers and not their wives or husbands. I do recall feeling off around jabees especially the Mod and Pfz varieties. There's a certain aura some of them give off. It's similar to the vibe you get in an old folks home. It's not quite the same as death, but it doesn't feel like health.
Then again, I don't know if I'm psyching myself out about it.
Game theory wise, I really don't think the 'they' would have made anything that could harm them. Something that can contaminate others would fall into that category. Unless the 'they' in question are already sipping adrenochrome laced coolers in their underground forts.
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dicedice 2 points 2.6 years ago
Saving this. Thanks.
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dicedice 1 point 2.6 years ago
Ok. The holocaust never happened. It is mathematically impossible to dispose of so many bodies. The best video I ever saw on the matter is some two hour job that goes over the original sources.
Am I a bot? Am I a jew? The jury's out. Whatever the case may be, I'm not hearing strong rebuttal arguments.
Let my argument stand or fall on their own merits. The truth does not fear investigation. Investigate the globe with at least as much intensity as you would the holocaust fraud.
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dicedice -2 points 2.6 years ago
"precisely because of the rotation of the earth"
How do you prove that it is motion of the earth that causes this? That's the issue. The cause is presumed.
The trouble is we are moving at 1000 mph at the equator. We don't detect that motion. We are also moving 67000 mph around the sun. We don't detect that motion either. Because the earth is spinning against the movement around the sun day vs night, there should be a +- 1000 mph speed difference from the 67000 in alternating day/night cycles.
And yet, we don't experience that. We don't measure that. And somehow a gyroscope is supposed to get me to ignore that?
If all the world's scientists were certain in their heart of hearts that the earth moves, they will include into anything they find that would seem to prove the opposite some counter acting force so as to create a working equation. This doesn't prove that the counteracting force exists. If you take Occam's razor to heart, 'Entities should not be multiplied endlessly' then you can safely eliminate all of those neutralizing forces and just keep with the base observations.
It is the sky that moves over the earth. Gyroscopes detect the motion of the field of the sky. That is the simplest answer.
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dicedice 1 point 2.6 years ago
You're welcome to think I'm a bot. You're also welcome to watch a video on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t30-YbayyXE
This video will include visual aids for your benefit if you are having a hard time understanding verbal descriptions.
Accusations of 'you're a bot' will be the next 'you're a jew' deflection comments. It's very like Saul Alinsky to accuse the other of what you yourself are guilty of.
If you can't understand the argument, that's on you. And to be fair, it is nearly impossible for someone who believes in the globe worldview more than anything else to imagine anything else. It doesn't make them smart or stupid. They've been 1984d. They've been golemmed. It's not so much their fault as it is the fault of the liars. Where it becomes their responsibility is when confronted with a different idea, they need to examine things for truth for truth's sake. Sadly many people don't know how to do that and a scientific education is actually very bad at the philosophical groundwork necessary for truth. It's relative truth: is this model better or that model better? The field of pure mathematics still has a concept of truth because that's built into the hardware of that science. The above argument is a simplification of a mathematical proof that states: no matter what the shape of the sky, observation dictates that it is possible to have multiple people at different locations on earth observe a visual phenomenon.
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dicedice -2 points 2.6 years ago
Do you know what anticrepuscular rays are?
Here's the lazypedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticrepuscular_rays
Of main interest are the photographs.
Do you see how all of those lines appear to converge to a point? There is nothing emanating from that point. The sun is on the other side of the sky. The light rays are converging to that point.
No matter what you view the sky as, whether you think the earth is a ball or a plane or a cosmic sandwich, that phenomena is observable, it exists, and it can be photographed. Whatever the sun actually is, whether it be billions of miles away and large, very near and small, or whatever else you may wish to model it as, it's light rays can appear to converge to a point.
Now imagine if you can that you can make those light rays spin. To rotate over your head the way the night sky changes over the course of the night bringing new stars into view. Would every observer still see all of those lines converging to a point? Yes. Turning big stripes in the sky should have no effect on the matter.
Now instead imagine that the source of this celestial pinwheel is at the north star instead of at one end of the sky. It is even higher than the light source that creates the sun and turns beyond the field of view. What would happen to those bands caused by the pinwheel? Should they do anything other than converge to a point?
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dicedice 1 point 2.6 years ago
I am a flat earther. More accurately, I'm an anti-glober. I was a holocaust skeptic before that.
If you are able to be as skeptical of the stories told about the world we live in as you are about the holocaust, you might find yourself thinking unsanctioned thoughts about the earth.
If you go into it with the attitude, "Of course the earth is a ball." You'll get the same result as going into holocaust research with the attitude "Jews are our greatest ally."
Yes, there are plenty of numbskull flat earthers. And those are now the only ones the algorithm will let you see. Public flat earthers tend towards outliers in all categories. Being vocal and being smart do not always align. The smart ones are out there, but the more effective ones get sniped by the same systems that snipe holocaust discussions. While they aren't as hard censored from the various platforms as you get with holocaust questioning, you don't see them unless you know where to look. I can make recommendations at the end of this post.
As for your position, in every case you grade the flat earther a numbskull you take as a given that the earth is a ball and that "they don't understand how the earth is a globe." That is incorrect. Should there be detectable motion if the world were spinning? That is the question. If there isn't something and there should be, what would liars and people who believe the lie do?
Now, should there be detectable bodies if the holocaust actually happened? Yes, absolutely. And when people go to look, either they find nothing or they run into the law that prevents them from looking. The difference between the holocaust and the globe is that anyone can investigate the claims of the globe anywhere. You just have to be able to ask questions of the globe. Asking questions of the flat earth is asking the wrong questions. What you are doing is laughing at people for asking questions they don't know how to ask, because they've been lied to their whole lives and don't know how to ask the questions.
The main recommendation I have is Sky Free. They are a husband and wife duo on youtube who steer clear of much of the algorithmic censorship by sticking to observational testing. They are able to replicate the visual phenomenon of boats "going over the curve" on a small scale over a known flat surface using temperature and humidity changes. They really don't have much to critique or call them idiots on because all they do is make observations, measure it, and report the findings and compare it to macro scale observation phenomena.
An older channel is Ajaycee 1844. You'll need to search for that exact title to find it or click here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCucOqhlu-peCXdiwy8VTwuw
As they are an older channel, they concern themselves with questions that began to develop among the early flat earth groups that sprang up in the early 2010s. Questions of the map are topics of early videos, and questions of the sky topics of later ones. It lays out a perfectly understandable view of the geocentric sky. The early videos discuss some of the philosophical questions you come to when first really asking questions.
One of my absolute top videos to recommend isn't particularly about flat earth but about space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTzF2mgBRLk
It isn't a direct refutation. It's just suspect that this isn't a common thing already. It provides a challenge and is very well edited. The challenge has yet to be met and my position is that it is impossible.
I know a fair bit about the history of the contemporary flat earth movement whether you believe it or not. I can refer you to other links if you are interested and would otherwise have trouble finding on your own.
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dicedice 1 point 2.6 years ago
What would happen if this got 'OK''d like the OK sign had?
"This red string around my wrist represents the blood of Christ who died for my sins. I wear it to remember the king of the Jews who sacrificed his life for me."
Turn everything jewish into Christian symbols when they usually try to make Christian symbols wicked.
I'm pretty sure jews would kvetch over that.
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dicedice 0 points 2.6 years ago
A little bit of a tangent, but any of these space shuttle launches would be great cover for launching an attack. They could be firing that thing anywhere in the world and it could wreck somebody's day. Meanwhile people at the launch site are cheering it on oblivious to the destruction.
You only have the word of the people shooting large, combustible obects into the sky at speed that it's going to space. And people would get upset if you didn't shoot the thing off.
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dicedice 0 points 2.6 years ago
Saving this. Good find.
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dicedice 3 points 2.7 years ago
Sky Free has an excellent series collecting data and observations on the subject.
Here is a summary video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3h00DXoLS0
In short: The phenomenon of "boats disappearing over the edge" can be reproduced over known flat surfaces at smaller scale. The conclusion is that the environmental factors of temperature and humidity have more to do with what causes objects to appear to sink than a physical dropping away of the land/water.
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dicedice -1 points 2.8 years ago
The timing of this is suspect.
It came out right as soon as the market tanked. Coincidentally, right when Moishe needs people to not put all their cash into gold, a story comes out that makes gold look like a bum deal for panicky people who don't read more than the headlines.
Also: You think you can mine Africa? By the time you get your mine up and running the current head dude who didn't make any contracts with you says gimme dat and now you have no mine and no gold. You would need a substantial stable population and government. South Africa, sure, there's whites there for now. But Uganda?
No thanks. I'll continue putting money into precious metals while the getting's good.
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dicedice 2 points 2.9 years ago
This was generated from /pol/ globohomo art general or GAG a year or two ago in January. The website or article could well have been generated by an anon, but the meme did gain traction and start to filter so it may well have been picked up by a genuine sjw or tranny for an article.
The GAG was a project dedicated to subverting the bland art style commonly seen with bubble-bean people in vector graphic styles that is now incredibly pervasive. It got quashed hard. Even so, many of the memes are now seen in the wild like this one and taken completely seriously.
This originated as a parody, but there is a small chance it's been adopted by those it's targeting.
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dicedice 1 point 2.9 years ago
It's a group of people that get pushed from main stream platforms. Of course it's going to find it's way to new voat. They get algorithmically filtered on jewtube, they get booted from many of the chans, they're going to come here. It's obvious.
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dicedice 1 point 2.9 years ago
Which ones? For or against?
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