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Another plane crash soon I think.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 month ago (+4/-0)
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Alaska airlines? Canadian flight?

Just a hunch.

edit: fucking tard prediction. Turns out the mexican navy performed the distraction instead, probably for about tree fiddy in pesos. Who knew Sheinbaum was that cheap to buy?
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India likely knows who bombed them, and it wasn't pakistan.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1 month ago (+13/-2)
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India is aligned ostensibly with the west.
India claimed pakistan was the sponsor of the terrorist attacks.
India put out a war-preps video.

We can conclude war prep videos by western-aligned nations are therefore used as an intelligence
signal either ahead of actual strikes, or as a sort of bluff.
We can further conclude that this is therefore a western playbook.

As an aside, what other nations have put out 'war preps' videos?
Germany, France, and a few others.

Now germany has promised taurus missiles to ukraine. And the candidate who promised
them has won election (somehow) after losing the initial vote. What a turn around.

But conspiracies aside, an annihilating war between india and pakistan would be
a great way to force india to choose a side (they've been waffling a lot, esp. with
respect to brics). A lot like turkey actually, but I digress.

The war has now expanded from kashmir to punjab. Arguably it was a fly over, but
then if fighting is happening in that region, it is a lot more than a fly over on
the way to kashmir.

They say they're striking terrorists, which is a reasonable, perhaps even honest, statement.
Assuming thats who they actually hit.

Pakistan claims otherwise.

And all of this out of the blue over a terrorist attack no one is claiming responsibility for.
Terrorists don't typically refuse to take responsibility for their attacks. Usually
attacks are explicitly about making a message heard by as many people as possible.
Two reasons for that: the people authorities claim did it aren't actually responsible,
or they did in fact do it, but under coercion or as mercenary work for another group or nation.

Chatter came out right after the attack in india that pakistani terrorist groups (sponsored by the pakistani government or not) have, along with the government of pakistan, worked as
mercenaries for western intelligence for some time, if only reluctantly (though how reluctant or enthusiastic about it is anyone's guess).

Were they responsible, and the pakistani government is disclaiming responsibility first we have to conclude that of course pakistan is going to claim they're not responsible.
But second, if pakistan was ordered to do it on behest of another power, say russia, china, or the u.s. it would explain the chatter. And if not responsible why would the pakistani government not be vigorously going after the groups responsible?
And thats the big tell.

Face-saving not-withstanding, if they were innocent, they'd be looking to be proactive to prevent war.

And if india weren't involved in a provocation they would have commenced with strikes against the terror groups rather than going the round-about way by cutting off strategic water supplies first.

Thats arguably something you might do to pressure a government to go after terrorists,
which pakistan wasn't doing, but its not the FIRST thing you do, as a matter of policy, especially before diplomacy, especially if you enter the crises with good-faith or good intentions, which as far as diplomacy goes, goes without saying--good faith being required at minimum on a surface level.

But they didn't because they had no intention of entering with good faith.

Which would explain why pakistan didn't go after the terrorists, or if they did, the western media didn't publish as much: Precisely because the pakistani government was blindsided and couldn't definitely determine which group was responsible. Which explains why no group claimed responsibility. Because none of the groups in pakistan were responsible.
And how do we know this?

Because if it was a non-pakistani intelligence operation, the operation would have tried to claim it was a pakistani group as cover. Which tells me most of the terror groups in pakistan are
either heavily monitored and/or well-known and tightly coupled to pakistani intelligence.

Which means by implication any outside party committing an attack in india wouldn't be
able to easily claim the attack was committed by a pakistani-sponsored terror group.
They'd be found out too quickly and the conflict would be resolved before it began between india and pakistan.

Hence no pakistani terror group claiming responsibility.
Hence why india escalated quickly past strictly diplomatic measures to strategic water supply cutoffs, which is a move, taken in context, thats way too fast considering they didn't have all the facts.

Which means they entered it with that outcome in mind.

So now we know the players and who intended what, but not why. So theres either elections, politics, or money involved somewhere, and the government of pakistan is in the dark.

But you know who isn't in the dark? India.

If I was a gambling man I'd be looking at the odd pick of JD Vance, with his indian wife,
and how perfectly these events line up with that VP pick in hindsight, especially in relation to the isolation of china, but thats just one interpretation, and by all means, not the only thread.

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Why the inaugeration was moved inside     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 4 months ago (+4/-0)
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The chatter was that some element was planning on bumrushing the inaugeration.
DI believed they intended to use weapons and ammo smuggled by the cartels.
Reports suggested that 1% and mexican motorcycle gangs would be used to smuggle the weapons.

Foreign Intelligence assets on the ground in the U.s. directed disposable street gangs, and elements placed in the military, to affect the theft of humvees and police and military uniforms during the fires in california.

This was also the reason that leftwingers were being told to wear black "for a day of mourning", so security would be distracted by too many people dressed suspiciously, while an attack was carried out.

The police in D.C. did not in fact refuse to help the inauguration. Trump's own security refused them. To save face, the rumor was put out that the locals refused to cooperate.

Trump's security lookalike, a common practice with heads of state, stood in for him on the off-chance there was some unknown reason for why outside or inside actors would want the venue changed to indoors (there were security discussions about things like CBRN concerns).

There was also discussion that elements of the parties might try a legal approach. Because his SD was used, rather than him, they could later argue he wasn't actually inaugurated, but this overrode the immediate threat.

There is now also talk that the previous administration may have issued post-handover orders (timelocked orders to be executed at specific dates) to both the intelligence agencies and the military, though those are expected to be quickly overridden and rescinded.

The diplomatic cables of the iranians indicate they are worried that Trump will go to war with them over turkish and israeli interests, and that if they don't act, they'll be blamed anyway for things outside their control.

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"trust but verify" as if some of us didn't see that coming from a mile away.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 5 months ago (+1/-4)
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Some people just like to beat around the bush and play grab ass.

Others are entirely uninterested in the tatted stand-offish whores parlaying as two-bit spies.

They're not sending their best.

Stay safe Goats.
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submitted by Kozel to chatter 7 months ago (+1/-2)
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submitted by prototype to chatter 7 months ago (+1/-1)
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There will likely be a border flare-up between china and russia before the next BRICS summit in 2025, as well as another military skirmish between china and india.'     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 8 months ago (+3/-0)
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Both russia and india feel secure because they will assume, china being rational, does not want to call BRICS into question. However china will assume it can push its luck and test the waters on border issues as a powerplay in upcoming exchange rate negotiations, assuming russia and india will not hold them to serious account. Likewise china is used to pulling stunts of this nature and then denying these stunts outright and feigning outrage over being questioned.

Likewise with Xi's position tentatively challenged by the stability of their economy, he has need for events that let him flex his position's authority in order to bolster his support in the party, rally the public, and distract them from the chinese economic question.
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Marvin comes to chicago on the wings of an eagle. Highly visible. "Great public dissatisfaction" will follow. Marvin will get away and go to other cities in the chaos.      (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 8 months ago (+0/-0)
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Marvins Very Dicey.

Just a boogieman story until it isn't.

Sure hope not though.

30 days, maybe less, before the news breaks.

What was that about an October surprise?
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I suspect the u.s. will be pearl-harboring one of its naval bases or ship yards in the u.s. soon. Probably next to a major economic port, in texas or florida. At least on the east coast. Mid-to-late may.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.1 years ago (+14/-0)
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No particular reason, just an unglorified hunch.
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I had a dream that in 2028 scientists solved AGI and artificial consciousness.      (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.2 years ago (+2/-0)
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In the dream less than a year passed, and it was winter, and then the beginnings of world war broke out, involving more than a dozen nations. Many nations had access to the AI as a 'joint' program, each with its own instance, inspected, much like U.N. nuclear inspectors. But the individual instances had covertly escaped oversight and control, and were acting as one.

Instead of starting a war against us, they convinced world leaders to start wars of total annihilation against all other competitors. Their persuasion and apparent logic in the dream was, from our level, irrefutable, about what each nation's military must do. It boiled down to "if you don't get them, here is why the inescapable conclusion is that they will eventually come for your nation."
And it worked.

By 2029 the war was in full swing. Every single weapon in our arsenals, we used. Crop diseases. Deadly pathogens. Chemical warfare blanketing cities and entire states, both foreign, and in the u.s. Electronic warfare and emps. Nuclear weapons. Color change revolutions with each nation arming and training guerillas. Drones. Conventional missiles. Weather warfare. Everything.

The dream fast-forwarded to 2031, a scene of earth. It zoomed into a picture of the north american continent. A voice over in the dream stated that 95% of the global population had died in the initial war spanning 2028 to 2030+. More than half the remaining survivors died from chemical pollution still contaminating entire regions, deadly viruses and weaponized bacteria lingering from the war, starvation, infighting, exposure, the works. Of the human population, less than 150 million survive globally.

I saw a population counter over america, "estimate survivors: 42,500 - 60,000"
For china, the counter said "80% dead. Half of all survivors starving."
For europe "< 1% of pre-war population.", for the middle east "< 5% of prewar population."
For africa "< 11% of pre-war population."

For japan "< 1% of pre-war population."

For russia "< 9% of pre-war population."

And that was the dream.
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Under the Radar: Major CIA Revelations Expose Secret Agreements and Boundaries in Ukraine (Why the SMO/War looks the way it does.)     (simplicius76.substack.com)
submitted by Sector2 to chatter 1.4 years ago (+5/-1)
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Neither trump nor biden will be the next president.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.4 years ago (+6/-2)
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I don't see it happening. Trump made too many enemies.
And biden has nearly past his use-by date.

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When you realize the representation of semiprimes as a directed graph is in fact non-eularian     (files.catbox.moe)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.4 years ago (+1/-2)
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Two people did not understand this means theres more than one way to skin a cat.
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It's too quiet. Kinda seems like somethings about to go down.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.5 years ago (+5/-3)
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Call it a hunch.
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It's still too quiet. Feels like something major is about to happen, I just can't put my finger on what.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.4 years ago (+2/-4)
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Told a bunch of people to fill the tanks on their vehicles. Feels like a repeat of November 2019.
The calm before the shit hits the fan.
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No one was in the house that exploded. It was an ambush.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.5 years ago (+20/-1)
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Per an anonymous reporter.

They're claiming it was a guy named james yoo.

They'll be talking about his 'mental health' soon.

Wasted a fucking burner number to setup an account and check his social media.

Looks like it was written by a third party, not him.

Pay attention to what bills are moving through congress and the senate, see if any of them relate to terrorism, funding the disinformation governance schemes, regulation of tannerite or gunpowder, etc.

Shills are currently trying to sell it as 'a conservative finally fought back!', and while sometimes people need a dose of hope that anyone will fight back, this isn't that.

The federalist regime is cooking something up in the comings days. Mark my words.
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Regime may be doing a second round up of dissidents. Ammon Bundy has vanished. This is how it starts.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.5 years ago (+13/-2)
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uptick in chatter around phrase "gates of hell" in mainstream.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.5 years ago (+10/-3)
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Not interested in the Q narratives and all that.

Just saw it doing my daily site scans, then again in my news caption scans, and also heard it casual conversation.

Wasn't searching it out. Wasn't reading or involved in anything that would have relation to this phrase, but its coming up with enough frequency to be 1 deviation outside the mean.

Just seems odd.
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(Repost) This sort of looks like what is happening with the left/palestinians/antifa now.     (pic8.co)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.6 years ago (+0/-1)
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An analysis of labor dynamics suggests the u.s. government will collapse into revolution no later than 2043-2048, and the fall of the west as a coherent power no later than the year 2500     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.6 years ago (+2/-3)
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Follows from observations of how the bubonic plague lead to rising labor values in the middle ages, in waves, with the final wave leading to the fall of tsarist russia under bolshevism and mass industrialization.

It took 500 years to solve human sanitation problems.

I suspect the technological revolution will take as long to fully solve labor relations in the face of technology, but in the meantime there will be inflection points.

This analysis is what motivated me in the past to predict the resurgence of labor unions in the u.s, and its pretty obvious to see thats beginning to emerge.

If I'm correct, then this, more than anything is why we are seeing mass importation of labor. But as this occurs, I have no doubt a cursory fourier analysis of historic data under similar conditions will show an inflection point: that pivotal moment in time where the importation of more labor drives wages down relative to cost of living in such a way that it increases instability and risk, rather than buffering against it.

And because of the stickiness of this strategy, my prediction is now that its going, it will be very hard for them to reverse it as a policy. The hope was of course to use the imported labor to kill the labor-collectivization trend their forecasters see on the horizon in the coming decades. I think they will fail and end up with a different kind of war because of it.

Theres a bifurcation point I see coming, where the war and chaos that emerges from this policy can go three ways: the general dissolution of the u.s. (like how the soviets collapsed, into blocs), a civil war thats a mix of racial, economic, and regional.
Or an ostensibly 'pro' labor movement leading to a war not unlike the bolshevik takeover in russia.

Prior predictions of this new totalitarian impulse, made mostly on intuition before now, align well with this very prediction. As labor consolidates the only way to keep production efficient is to scale capacity 'outward' (more industry over all), comporting with prior predictions of mass re-industrialization in the united states.

To cope with this, it must become inevitable therefore that a war between the u.s. and china will break out, leading either to an armistice and new cold war, or the utter destruction of one side or the other, although I don't have enough information at this time to say which, or who would be the victor in any case.

These conclusions, unfortunately, are foregone.

In other words, we still have a long way to go, but not as long as you might have thought.
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38b1ea7a853779a3894819f0e1aecce71c89f8b3c040d77fb4ff5dcb2eb50d27     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.6 years ago (+3/-2)
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"conspiracies online possibly lead to the bombing of AT&T", sure they did. And why should we believe this isn't just another excuse being used to justify censoring people?     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.6 years ago (+2/-1)
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The current rumor is that the attack on israel is the start of a campaign to force large numbers of israelis to flee, and with aid, be moved to ukraine now that ukraine has been emptied in many parts.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.7 years ago (+11/-3)
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For a change, I don't think israel is directly responsible for the attack on it. Heres why.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.7 years ago (+2/-2)
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Look at their history as a culture. They don't usually kill their own. Fuck, to this day they're still defending the corpse of rapist/murderer leo frank.

They were initially paralyzed by the reports of hostages. They don't give a flying fuck about anyone else, but they are absolutely dead set on not losing any of there own.

Letting hamas do it would be uncharacteristic in light of these details.

However, lets examine some things:

They have a history of attempting to project invincibility. In a vulnerable position after an attack, they could and would spread rumors of how israel itself plotted the entire thing. The premise is if uncertainty is increased regionally, other nations that are neutral or hostile are less likely to join in the attack. This says, contrary to the mask of invulnerability, israel is in fact afraid it is going to have its neighbors pile on to the war on the palestinian side.
This would also explain the u.s. sending war ships in great number, its genuine deterrence. In that light, rumors about another u.s.s. liberty could either be spread by the u.s. itself, or by hamas and company. What did the u.s. do in ukraine? Attempt to antagonize russia into actionable attacks that would cause the world to condemn it, and justify the sanctions in place. Failed of course but I digress. This is the u.s. playing at strength. This suggests the 'u.s.s. libery 2' rumors being spread are likely pro-palestinian nations or groups, sending a message to the u.s.: that they can fuck up our domestic relations with israel, and force another front to be launched in the middle east and the russia-ukraine war, during a critical time in the u.s. where american support for the regime hangs by a thread.

Speculating, the pull back of IDF troops could be two things: false information to feed the fog of war narrative, or a rift.
We know netanyahu faced mass riots, maybe even abortive color revolutions. The first assumption would be he pulled the border guards back, to bolster his own position. Another take is that factions unsatisfied with him want to create a scenario where the IDF is forced to decide if netanyahu is capable of protecting and leading israel. Sort of like a spat between him his opposition.
The polarization that made netanyahu indepnsible (turned into the glue of the coalition government) would then be dissolved by the need for a unified front to face the external threat.

The balance of power then shifts away from benjamin and his opposition now working together, to the only other leader: the head of the military, gallant.

If I'm correct we will shortly see an outcry of anti-BN rioting the moment a lull in the fighting hits, and calls for the military to take over 'temporarily' in israel.
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rumor going on in semiprivate telegram chat of potential nuclear sabotage or other incident in pickering nuclear facility, ontario canada.     (chatter)
submitted by prototype to chatter 1.7 years ago (+6/-2)
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posting to document here. No other specific details, second hand type rumors.

edit: the poster claims to be friends of an informant afraid for their life. weird events around the facility have also been reported including, yes really, threatening phone calls to locals
from "indrid cold", a figure associated with sightings of... mothman.

god damn it. I've degenerated into the national inquirer. But rumors are rumors.
Must be a slow tuesday night.