A lot of illness is preventable by lifestyle changes and regular check-ups, so it would be nice if there was some kind of feedback loop where the people in health care dealing with bad life choices (no matter who pays in the end) could put pressure on someone to incentivize a healthy lifestyle.
Say you're a fat fuck, but suddenly you have to pay triple your taxes just because you are a fat piece of shit. Lose weight or pay money that can later be used to care for your health-care. It's win-win.
Or maybe you smoke or drink alcohol or eat chocolate. No problem, have at you. But these luxuries are now heavily taxed, so you pay for your later health problems up front. (There are already taxes, but I mean taxes that make you actually rethink when buying.)
In Norway they do it like that. Over there you pay five to ten bucks for a small bar of chocolate, for example.
But if you want to account for the overall situation you kinda need someone like the state.
Behavior modification through taxes are ok? Because that's a giant loophole to the constitution. Unless you're ok w ammo being taxed so heavily it's $250 a box. How about $50/gal of gasoline?
Beware of easy solutions, they can bleed all over the place.
Not behavior modification. Pricing in externalties. If you live an unhealthy lifestyle you get a bill eventually. But many people are morons that cannot see two days into the future, so putting costs that will hit in the future upfront is a good way to deal with idiots making poor life choices.
Idiots can't see the hidden cost of their consumption behavior.
The challenge is to make this system dynamic. So that the taxes automagically fall when the cost for health care of related issues fall - or the other way around.
Some people will end up paying their own bills. Some people will be poor the whole time, and someone else will be paying. The poorer people are, the fatter they are, so you might have a hard time motivating the right people.
Yes, the 'trick'. It wont work, some fuckass will get into power and ruin it all. The problem with good ideas in government is that if you actually have them then you will get voted out next election (provided elections arent fake and gay) and your successor will trash them.
There is no guarantee that moar taxes will only punish fatties. Also being fat is punishment enough and they still dont change their lifestyle, taxes wont fix shit, you need instant punishment everytime they eat something bad not a number with a percentage on it in a bill they wont read.
Stupidity is always the excuse for more government, education is the solution not more government. Nobody gives a fuck about education though.
The point isn't to fix their behavior. The point is to make them pay for the consequences of their behavior upfront. This will disincentivize the behavior. It won't fix it.
The problem with government is that the people involved have no incentive to improve the life of the people. Even if anyone involved had such an inclination there still would be no way to actually get anything done towards that end.
You are a simpleton if you actually think this works. If a person wishes to be sloth, let them be sloth. If insurance doesn't think they are insurable then fat fuck dies without health care.
It works in Norway. It's not a fantasy. Of course, it's also illegal for food companies to poison their food with excess sugar and additives over there.
No, it doesn't. You stupid jew. It's not the real issue. The real issue is jews. Get them out of the medicine and law and many of the problems with cost go away. I think you're one of the incel-pedos around here which means you should be hanging by a rope not trying to subvert and divert the site. KYS.
No. You start from the standpoint that healthcare is independent amongst countries but it is not. America pays for all the innovation and research so other countries get the tech, knowledge, and meds cheaper. Then they get to parade around their systems as functioning socialism. And stupid people like yourself buy it. On top of it, I know foreigners (Europeans) that have literally cried walking into an American hospital because it was so nice and not filled with lines of people. A particular person had stopped getting care in France because their system is so awful she couldn't stomach trying to get care. So, comparing country to country as apples to apples doesn't work, but you're a simpleton dipshit that us probably paid to be here anyway. Fuck off, don't respond. KYS.
That's all socialist medicine is: an insurance racket. People in the US get better (if you consider doctors any good today) care than Canadians and Brits. It's all about skimming inflated pricing. Americans get a bill saying the aspirin cost the insurance company fifty dollars, Socialists don't.
The thing that gets me is these Europeons always want to talk shit about our medical system, when our medical system is partially responsible for why they can have universal healthcare, and a big reason why modern healthcare even exists in third world countries.
That aspirin costs $50 or whatever because it's in part subsidizing the $0.02 (or whatever) price they charge in say India.
It's such horseshit. It's like the dumbasses in California who talk about how they have this amazing economy, but they can't keep the fucking lights on even when they're buying power from damned near every neighboring state.
Yeah I agree. Basically the US and only the US pays these inflated drug prices. Everyone else gets a free ride.
And then all the UK doctors want to move here. IDK what happens in continental Europe. But I saw a lot of poos that got free medical training in the UK and then moved here. So they can grift two countries to which they don't belong.
They are not actually doing well, no matter what people on the internet tell you.
Would you sell $10 of your services if it costs you $20?
The real reason why Healthcare is so fucking expensive is that governments put a lower limit on what can be charged.
Need a 15min consult? That Will costs you a doctor who spent 8 years in school where 90% of students need not have applied.
And the doctor spends fucking half their work day filling out state mandated forms! And a doctor who pays enormous liability insurance. Because patients are not allowed to wave liability and pay for a cheaper health service.
All insurance is bad. It is not better if we all have the same insurance. Cost of auto repairs are driven up by insurance. Cost of home repair is driven up. Insurance perverts accurate economic information within the system. If you think of the market economy as an information system (it is), then you want good information in order to compute an efficient allocation of resources. Insurance is a vice like drugs or welfare. It is an illusion that its good for society. The losers of the insurance racket always outnumber the winners.
Everyone working in insurance is a parasite. Insurance destroys efficiency
Money lending is the twin of insurance. Both behaviors harm the fidelity of economic information in the system and drive up prices. Every thing will cost more if you can buy it at 20% down.
These sorts of industries (insurance, usury, government) are a misallocation of labor. No one in those professions make anything.
Maybe investment would work if everyone owned a share in the company they worked in. But I worry that Wall Street type stock exchanges are inherently bad.
[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsApr 3, 2023 12:08:16 ago (+0/-0)
Not all insurance companies are built the same. Look at mutual insurance companies instead of the bullshit like Allstate. In a mutual insurance company, the policy holders get the benefits of any profits.
Insurance is just shared risk. It is not ideal in it's current form, but it isn't inherently a scam.
Its much like usury and money lending. When people want to buy a house they look at how expensive houses are and they thank the bank that they will loan them enough to buy one. They are actually fucking thankful that the bank will rape them out of thousands of dollars with a loan they will never pay back. The reason its fucking gay is because the price is that high because a bunch of other people are asking the bank for loans also, so the one guy who saved and is willing to pay an accurate amount is fucked over because people who didnt save are borrowing more money from the bank, now he has to also borrow from the bank to afford something he shouldnt have had to borrow money to afford.
Its unfathomable to many that things are expensive because we are given help to get them. The government prints money and people applaud because they need more money, then they wonder why everything gets more expensive.
I fucking hate insurance, if i could save the money i put into insurance id be better off but its mandatory for some things. I could never imagine anyone working in insurance as anything other than a parasite, they exist to profit of peoples paranoia and fear, their business model relies on not paying people out so there is always stipulations and faggotry involved., they dont produce anything, just worthless middle men.
Right. We were raised thinking banks and insurance firms were the pillars of society. They are just elaborate sophisticated rackets. They only add a layer of inefficiency to wealth production. They are only legal because people are too stupid to understand why they are so bad.
Kike bankers drive up housing costs, white men bust their ass paying off shitty mortgages. Niggers whine they have nowhere to live and kike politicians tell us they need to steal more from whites to fix the problem of nigger homelessness.
...when neither niggers or kikes ever lift a hammer or nail! Its mass insanity.
The amish don’t use insurance and I used to think, “Why the hell do they do that?” But it makes perfect sense to me now. When analyzed through economic game theory, neither insurance nor usury are useful to anyone but the people in that industry. It’s like gambling. They are both a negative sum game.
The initial idea with the HMO was that it would be not for profit. The big companies hired a doctor, so he was just getting a salary rather than trying to run a profit business.
Life insurance is a scam. You pay in $30k (plus more if you account for inflation) to get $20k. In some cases, you 'beat' the system and die sooner, but then you're dead so did you really win? Just put the money in a savings account and you'll leave your family more that way.
[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsApr 3, 2023 12:05:33 ago (+0/-0)
The policy you are describing absolutely doesn't exist and you are making shit up with no knowledge of life insurance.
There are various forms of life insurance. The best is "Whole Life", meaning as long as you continue to pay, you have it for your "whole life". It builds cash value based on the amount you have paid. The death benefit literally cannot EVER be below the amount you have paid in, because the death benefit GROWS as you pay more (it adds the cash value to the death benefit).
There are also whole life policies where you pay for 5/10/20/30 years, but you keep it forever. It also builds cash value, and it also can NEVER have a death benefit lower than the amount you have paid.
Whole life is essentially a savings account with a death benefit. It builds slower at first, but the returns are FAR higher than an actual savings account on a long timeline. If you keep it for 10 years, it will surpass any savings account out there. You can also "borrow" against the cash value, and then let the policy lapse to extract your money.
You absolutely don't know what you are talking about.
[ - ] Bigdeal 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:08:42 ago (+1/-0)
Insurance, no. Healthcare, yes. Government should step in and standardize pricing. If you are accident prone or just sickly that will cost you but you get to know that cost up front and can shop around. You just end up getting what you paid for up front. Want a good doctor with more experince that will cost more but you know that price up front.
The government does not need to step in to standsrdize pricing. The government need to ban insurance and all government subsidies for helathcare. The pricing will fix itself.
You know how cheap it is to get chemo for your dog? Thats what happens when theres no insurance and no lawsuits.
The solution is to ban insurance. The amish are right (again). Insurance is driving up the cost of healthcare, duh. The pets of government and corporations have an unfair advantage and drive up prices with no accountability. This is why insulin cost 300 dollars. The government just prints 300 dollars to pay for the insulin of its pets. Insulin makers will charge whatever they can get. The redistribution of wealth from wealth producers to useless bureaucrats causes this problem. If no one has insurance, the cost of insulin becomes 20 dollars.
Supply and demand controls healthcare cost. Insurance fucks that up and adds a totally unnecessary layer of inefficient bureacracy to society.
All the west is infected by the same problems. It's no different here in Germany with exeption of the health care, but that's going to implode rather soon anyways.
Germany doesn't have African American niggers. But we do have an increasing number of feral purebreed Africans, plus Afghans, Pakistanis and all kind of shitskins you can imagine. We are done as a country.
Jews are relentlessly training the migrants in Germany to rip the system of every penny. They really want to destroy every single white country or community.
The problem is CAUSED by health insurance. (All insurance is BAD! ) Insurance disincentivizes responsible behavior and fucks with pricing mechanisms. It’s the insurance stupid!
The government comes along with the “solution” of single payer healthcare, which is WORSE than the insurance scheme.
If you want to know what universal healthcare will look like, review what happened in the last 2 years with the covid vaccine. Vaccines are the single payer model. A transaction between a jewish bureaucrat and a jewish CEO in which the jew bureacrat is deciding what’s best for you, the patient. You are not the customer so there’s no incentive for you to be treated well. Dumb!
Something that explains a lot of this seemingly odd behavior is the jewish suppression of the populace. A lot of it is media focused, but some is paid rioters, agent provocateurs(most of the alphabet agents are these days), the outright jailing and censorship of non-communists, and so on.
Also I guess the cartels aren't citizens anymore. Or terrorists in the middle east... Also it's working out so well for the Burmese people not having guns. Oh yeah, isn't everyone in Ukraine being forced to handle guns and explosives?
I have universal healthcare, amazing drug prices if you ever need anything, not tied to a job so you don't need to take crap, actual workers rights and the tax is minimal for the drugs.
The negative is trying to get a doctor and when you do he's an idiot, because the pay, while excellent for the ease of the job, is lower than private and the wait times can be bad, roughly 6 weeks for me.
JS healthcare would be good if not for the horrible insurance scammers, the middle man massively inflate the price and tying it to your wagie job. They still have mostly decent doctors and short wait times.
It's a nation of dudes with mutilated genitals lying to themselves about how they were half-castrated a few days after their births. They're terrified that trannies will mutilate their children, then go mutilate their children themselves. Can't make this shit up. Beyond depressing group of people.
[ + ] Inward
[ - ] Inward 27 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 10:02:51 ago (+27/-0)
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha 3 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 10:45:29 ago (+3/-0)
Say you're a fat fuck, but suddenly you have to pay triple your taxes just because you are a fat piece of shit. Lose weight or pay money that can later be used to care for your health-care. It's win-win.
Or maybe you smoke or drink alcohol or eat chocolate. No problem, have at you. But these luxuries are now heavily taxed, so you pay for your later health problems up front. (There are already taxes, but I mean taxes that make you actually rethink when buying.)
In Norway they do it like that. Over there you pay five to ten bucks for a small bar of chocolate, for example.
But if you want to account for the overall situation you kinda need someone like the state.
[ + ] TheViciousMrPim
[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 6 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 11:46:41 ago (+6/-0)
Beware of easy solutions, they can bleed all over the place.
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 13:57:20 ago (+0/-0)
Idiots can't see the hidden cost of their consumption behavior.
The challenge is to make this system dynamic. So that the taxes automagically fall when the cost for health care of related issues fall - or the other way around.
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 00:44:16 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Goatbear
[ - ] Goatbear 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 06:12:39 ago (+0/-0)
It wont work, some fuckass will get into power and ruin it all.
The problem with good ideas in government is that if you actually have them then you will get voted out next election (provided elections arent fake and gay) and your successor will trash them.
There is no guarantee that moar taxes will only punish fatties. Also being fat is punishment enough and they still dont change their lifestyle, taxes wont fix shit, you need instant punishment everytime they eat something bad not a number with a percentage on it in a bill they wont read.
Stupidity is always the excuse for more government, education is the solution not more government. Nobody gives a fuck about education though.
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 17:32:53 ago (+0/-0)
The problem with government is that the people involved have no incentive to improve the life of the people. Even if anyone involved had such an inclination there still would be no way to actually get anything done towards that end.
[ + ] Inward
[ - ] Inward 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 22:21:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Wahaha
[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 06:03:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:52:56 ago (+0/-0)
State run through proxy private owners.
Immensely regulated.
Not at all free market or capitalist.
State institutions like fda are a fucking crime against humanity
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[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 03:07:53 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Inward 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 08:04:41 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 08:24:14 ago (+0/-0)*
＞ just have to get an entire group banned from practising medicine and law
LOL
you do realize other countries have real healthcare despite the joos? maybe get off your ass instead of inventing excuses
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[ - ] Inward 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 08:40:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 09:02:41 ago (+0/-0)
many such cases
and then everyone clapped
LMAO
[ + ] Inward
[ - ] Inward 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 13:56:37 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Jinglebanger
[ - ] Jinglebanger 2 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:43:21 ago (+3/-1)
That aspirin costs $50 or whatever because it's in part subsidizing the $0.02 (or whatever) price they charge in say India.
It's such horseshit. It's like the dumbasses in California who talk about how they have this amazing economy, but they can't keep the fucking lights on even when they're buying power from damned near every neighboring state.
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 00:28:31 ago (+0/-0)*
And then all the UK doctors want to move here. IDK what happens in continental Europe. But I saw a lot of poos that got free medical training in the UK and then moved here. So they can grift two countries to which they don't belong.
They are not actually doing well, no matter what people on the internet tell you.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 4 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 11:14:33 ago (+4/-0)
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:49:37 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro -1 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 15:05:04 ago (+0/-1)
Would you sell $10 of your services if it costs you $20?
The real reason why Healthcare is so fucking expensive is that governments put a lower limit on what can be charged.
Need a 15min consult? That Will costs you a doctor who spent 8 years in school where 90% of students need not have applied.
And the doctor spends fucking half their work day filling out state mandated forms!
And a doctor who pays enormous liability insurance.
Because patients are not allowed to wave liability and pay for a cheaper health service.
Government command Healthcare fucked usa
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 11:08:04 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:43:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsApr 3, 2023 12:09:16 ago (+0/-0)
Irrelevant. No it isn't.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 3, 2023 13:26:34 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsApr 3, 2023 14:01:42 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:48:49 ago (+3/-0)
Everyone working in insurance is a parasite. Insurance destroys efficiency
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 3 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:56:30 ago (+3/-0)
They take your money and invest it.
Instead people should invest their own money and be prepared to sell down when disasters happen.
Remember. Insurance companies make profits. Money people are not spending on their own crisis
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 15:11:06 ago (+1/-0)
These sorts of industries (insurance, usury, government) are a misallocation of labor. No one in those professions make anything.
Maybe investment would work if everyone owned a share in the company they worked in. But I worry that Wall Street type stock exchanges are inherently bad.
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 00:33:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsApr 3, 2023 12:08:16 ago (+0/-0)
Insurance is just shared risk. It is not ideal in it's current form, but it isn't inherently a scam.
[ + ] Goatbear
[ - ] Goatbear 2 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 06:04:15 ago (+2/-0)
When people want to buy a house they look at how expensive houses are and they thank the bank that they will loan them enough to buy one.
They are actually fucking thankful that the bank will rape them out of thousands of dollars with a loan they will never pay back.
The reason its fucking gay is because the price is that high because a bunch of other people are asking the bank for loans also, so the one guy who saved and is willing to pay an accurate amount is fucked over because people who didnt save are borrowing more money from the bank, now he has to also borrow from the bank to afford something he shouldnt have had to borrow money to afford.
Its unfathomable to many that things are expensive because we are given help to get them. The government prints money and people applaud because they need more money, then they wonder why everything gets more expensive.
I fucking hate insurance, if i could save the money i put into insurance id be better off but its mandatory for some things. I could never imagine anyone working in insurance as anything other than a parasite, they exist to profit of peoples paranoia and fear, their business model relies on not paying people out so there is always stipulations and faggotry involved., they dont produce anything, just worthless middle men.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 15:33:26 ago (+0/-0)
Kike bankers drive up housing costs, white men bust their ass paying off shitty mortgages. Niggers whine they have nowhere to live and kike politicians tell us they need to steal more from whites to fix the problem of nigger homelessness.
...when neither niggers or kikes ever lift a hammer or nail! Its mass insanity.
The amish don’t use insurance and I used to think, “Why the hell do they do that?” But it makes perfect sense to me now. When analyzed through economic game theory, neither insurance nor usury are useful to anyone but the people in that industry. It’s like gambling. They are both a negative sum game.
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[ - ] deleted -2 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:51:52 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 15:00:39 ago (+1/-0)
Yes you.
Fuck head.
Listen to your better.
Your rebuttal was fucking retarded.
Maths cunt.
If people paid $1 for car insurance.
Insurance company keeps. 10c as profit and spends. 90c on the actual repair.
Clearly you dumb fuck that there is money for car repairs whether there is middlemen insurance companies or not!
And don't get me started on how good drivers with good maintenance efforts subsidize the shitty drivers.
[ + ] bonghits4jeebus
[ - ] bonghits4jeebus 0 points 2 yearsApr 1, 2023 00:32:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had -1 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:46:50 ago (+1/-2)
The fact that you are against life insurance is very telling. It is the only insurance guaranteed to pay (assuming you don't buy faggy term life).
You are a shill.
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[ - ] Kung_Flu -1 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:18:20 ago (+1/-2)
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[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:54:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsApr 3, 2023 12:05:33 ago (+0/-0)
There are various forms of life insurance. The best is "Whole Life", meaning as long as you continue to pay, you have it for your "whole life". It builds cash value based on the amount you have paid. The death benefit literally cannot EVER be below the amount you have paid in, because the death benefit GROWS as you pay more (it adds the cash value to the death benefit).
There are also whole life policies where you pay for 5/10/20/30 years, but you keep it forever. It also builds cash value, and it also can NEVER have a death benefit lower than the amount you have paid.
Whole life is essentially a savings account with a death benefit. It builds slower at first, but the returns are FAR higher than an actual savings account on a long timeline. If you keep it for 10 years, it will surpass any savings account out there. You can also "borrow" against the cash value, and then let the policy lapse to extract your money.
You absolutely don't know what you are talking about.
[ + ] Kung_Flu
[ - ] Kung_Flu 0 points 2 yearsApr 5, 2023 08:00:19 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Kung_Flu
[ - ] Kung_Flu 0 points 2 yearsApr 5, 2023 08:01:42 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Had 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:47:29 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Had 2 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:47:56 ago (+2/-0)
Faggot shill alert.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:51:42 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Bigdeal 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:08:42 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 15:03:19 ago (+0/-0)
You know how cheap it is to get chemo for your dog? Thats what happens when theres no insurance and no lawsuits.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:41:38 ago (+1/-0)
Supply and demand controls healthcare cost. Insurance fucks that up and adds a totally unnecessary layer of inefficient bureacracy to society.
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[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:31:52 ago (+2/-0)
The problem is CAUSED by health insurance. (All insurance is BAD! ) Insurance disincentivizes responsible behavior and fucks with pricing mechanisms. It’s the insurance stupid!
The government comes along with the “solution” of single payer healthcare, which is WORSE than the insurance scheme.
If you want to know what universal healthcare will look like, review what happened in the last 2 years with the covid vaccine. Vaccines are the single payer model. A transaction between a jewish bureaucrat and a jewish CEO in which the jew bureacrat is deciding what’s best for you, the patient. You are not the customer so there’s no incentive for you to be treated well. Dumb!
[ + ] Reawakened
[ - ] Reawakened 2 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:09:04 ago (+2/-0)
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[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 13:41:56 ago (+1/-0)
The jews destroying white western civilization and genociding whites across the globe
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[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 11:13:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FluffyBunnySlippers
[ - ] FluffyBunnySlippers 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 18:52:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 15:02:15 ago (+0/-0)
Meanwhile in Switzerland and Israel...
Also I guess the cartels aren't citizens anymore. Or terrorists in the middle east... Also it's working out so well for the Burmese people not having guns. Oh yeah, isn't everyone in Ukraine being forced to handle guns and explosives?
Good times.
[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 14:47:41 ago (+0/-0)
The negative is trying to get a doctor and when you do he's an idiot, because the pay, while excellent for the ease of the job, is lower than private and the wait times can be bad, roughly 6 weeks for me.
JS healthcare would be good if not for the horrible insurance scammers, the middle man massively inflate the price and tying it to your wagie job. They still have mostly decent doctors and short wait times.
[ + ] NedsHead
[ - ] NedsHead 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 10:45:38 ago (+2/-2)
America; "you'll own guns, and you'll do nothing"
[ + ] Conspirologist
[ - ] Conspirologist [op] 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:44:51 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 15:28:48 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 10:21:03 ago (+1/-1)
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[ + ] andasyoucansee
[ - ] andasyoucansee -2 points 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:04:59 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] Had
[ - ] Had 1 point 2 yearsMar 31, 2023 12:52:05 ago (+1/-0)
"Did you hear Rob had a baby boy?"
"YOU ARE A KIKE FAGGOT IF YOU CIRCUMCISE YOUR KIDS!!"
"Alright..."