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Illinois is the home of the 2nd swamp...Chicago...it was literally built on a swamp. That's why Obama came from there. Trust me...EVERYONE outside of Chicago in Illinois is desperately willing to be deputized to beat the ever loving shi- I mean detain these "protesters"...if that's what we're calling them. Why do you think the 2nd amendment sanctuary county movement started in Southern Illinois? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_sanctuary

Is there a crisis of not enough people to fill technician vacancies?

>Yes, there’s a real crunch in filling technician vacancies across multiple industries—automotive, manufacturing, IT, and more. Data paints a grim picture: the U.S. automotive sector alone needs about 76,000 new technicians annually to keep up with demand and retirements, but only around 37,000 graduate from training programs each year, leaving a gap of roughly 39,000. By 2024, the TechForce Foundation projected a shortage of 642,000 technicians if trends persist. In manufacturing, the semiconductor industry could be short 90,000 technicians by 2030. IT’s no better—IDC predicts 90% of organizations will feel the pinch by 2026, costing $5.5 trillion in losses from unfilled roles.[](https://www.nada.org/nada/chairmans-column/solving-technician-shortage-crisis)[](https://wrenchway.com/blog/technician-shortage-why-it-exists-what-needs-to-change/)[](https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbooksauthors/2023/12/12/the-skilled-professional-shortage-an-unsung-need-for-technicians/)

>Why? Aging workforces are retiring en masse, tech advancements demand ever-evolving skills, and societal stigmas—think “dirty” trade jobs—deter young folks from entering. Add to that the post-COVID “Great Resignation” and job-hopping millennials who switch gigs faster than you can say “wrench.” Some argue the “shortage” is partly corporate propaganda to justify lower wages or outsourcing, but the numbers suggest a genuine supply-demand mismatch.[](https://wrenchway.com/blog/technician-shortage-why-it-exists-what-needs-to-change/)[](https://www.sterling-engineering.com/shortage-maintenance-technicians/)[](https://wrenchway.com/blog/technician-shortage-why-it-exists-what-needs-to-change/)

>On the flip side, there’s hope. Initiatives like the NADA Foundation’s Workforce Initiative and AED Foundation’s Vision 2025 are pushing training and recruitment hard. TechForce reported a 17% uptick in automotive tech graduates in 2022, a rare win. Still, it’s a slog—shops need to up their game with better pay, cleaner workplaces, and modern training to attract and keep talent.[](https://www.nada.org/nada/chairmans-column/solving-technician-shortage-crisis)[](https://aedfoundation.org/the-equipment-industry-technician-shortage/)[](https://www.bodyshopbusiness.com/are-the-technician-shortage-tides-turning/)

>So, crisis? Definitely. Solvable? Maybe, but it’ll take more than a quick fix.

How would a shortage of workers justify lower wages? Shouldn't a demand for more technicians that exist cause wages to increase?

>You’re absolutely right—basic economics suggests that a shortage of workers (high demand, low supply) should drive wages up, not down. Yet, some argue companies exploit the "shortage" narrative to justify lower wages. Here’s how that paradox plays out: firms claim they can’t find “qualified” technicians, so they avoid raising wages by hiring less-skilled workers at lower pay, outsourcing to cheaper labor markets, or leaning on automation. This keeps costs down while they lobby for relaxed immigration or training subsidies, framing it as a crisis. Data backs your intuition, though—BLS reports median annual wages for automotive technicians rose to $46,970 in 2023, up 8% from 2020, precisely because of demand pressures. But not all employers follow suit; some bank on desperate job-seekers accepting less.

>The catch? If companies don’t raise wages to attract talent, they’re stuck in a cycle of understaffing and high turnover, which costs more in the long run. It’s a head-scratcher why some choose this path when competitive pay could fill vacancies faster.

Are recent technician graduates expressing frustration with finding jobs?

>Yes, recent technician graduates are voicing significant frustration with finding jobs, despite the reported shortage of skilled technicians. Many face a paradox: industries like automotive, IT, and manufacturing claim a dire need for workers, yet graduates struggle to land roles. For example, computer science graduates, often trained for technical roles, face unemployment rates as high as 7.8%, with many applying to hundreds of jobs and receiving minimal responses. Key issues include:

>- **Experience Gap**: Employers often demand 3-5 years of experience for "entry-level" positions, leaving fresh graduates stuck in a catch-22. A 2023 graduate from the University of North Georgia, for instance, applied to hundreds of jobs but landed only two interviews, often ghosted afterward.
>- **Mismatch in Skills**: Tech curricula can lag behind industry needs, focusing on outdated or theoretical concepts rather than practical, in-demand skills like specific programming languages or modern tools. Companies like Google and Amazon prioritize hands-on experience over degrees.
>- **Hiring Practices**: Automated applicant tracking systems filter out resumes lacking exact keyword matches, and some firms prefer outsourcing or hiring seasoned workers over investing in new grads. A Business.com experiment showed 90% of 300+ applications by qualified grads got no response.
>- **Market Dynamics**: While technician shortages exist (e.g., 642,000 projected shortfall in automotive by 2024), competition is fierce for desirable roles. Tech layoffs (400,000+ in 2022-2023) and a shift toward senior hires exacerbate this.

>On the flip side, some grads find success by pivoting to non-traditional paths like coding bootcamps, internships, or roles outside their field to build experience. Social media platforms like X echo this frustration, with posts noting a 50% drop in entry-level tech hiring as companies lean on automation or experienced workers.

>The disconnect is real: employers cry "shortage" but often won’t train or hire fresh talent, leaving grads feeling misled about job prospects.

Are there any corporate leaders who have publicly addressed the problems with entry level positions requiring years of experience?

>Yes, a few corporate leaders and industry experts have tackled the issue of entry-level jobs requiring years of experience, highlighting its absurdity and impact on new graduates. For instance, Brian Weed, CEO of Avenica, a recruiting firm focused on young professionals, has called out this practice as a barrier that limits companies’ access to high-performing talent. He argues that inflated experience requirements screen out qualified candidates, hurting both job seekers and businesses in need of fresh talent. Similarly, Larry Nash, who leads recruiting for EY in the U.S., has emphasized alternative approaches, like prioritizing on-the-job training over rigid experience demands, noting that the competitive labor market demands flexibility. Alicia Modestino, an associate professor at Northeastern University, has also weighed in, pointing out that these requirements ebb and flow with economic cycles but often reflect a misconception that skills learned elsewhere guarantee productivity. These voices critique the catch-22 and push for broader hiring strategies, like valuing transferable skills or co-op programs, to bridge the gap.[](https://www.shrm.org/topics-tools/news/talent-acquisition/entry-level-experience-requirements-hurting-hiring)[](https://www.shrm.org/mena/topics-tools/news/talent-acquisition/entry-level-experience-requirements-hurting-hiring)

>Still, it’s a mixed bag—many leaders stay quiet, likely because the practice simplifies hiring or keeps wages low. The chorus isn’t loud, but it’s growing.

Are any prominent educators speaking about entry level jobs requiring multiple years of experience?

>Prominent educators have indeed addressed the frustrating trend of entry-level jobs requiring multiple years of experience, highlighting its impact on new graduates. Here are a few notable voices:

>- **Mona Mourshed**, former global lead of McKinsey’s education practice and founder of Generation, has pointed out that post-pandemic shifts, like remote work and reduced middle management, have led employers to favor candidates who need less oversight, inflating experience requirements for entry-level roles. She argues this practice excludes capable young talent and calls for more flexible hiring criteria.[](https://www.businessinsider.com/entry-level-jobs-tech-roles-require-years-of-experience-2024-10)

>- **Alan Seals**, an associate professor of economics at Auburn University, emphasizes the long-term career damage caused by this barrier. He notes that 43% of college graduates don’t secure college-level jobs initially, with two-thirds remaining underemployed for years, urging employers to rethink rigid experience demands.[](https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20210916-why-inexperienced-workers-cant-get-entry-level-jobs)

>- **Alicia Modestino**, an associate professor at Northeastern University, has critiqued the cyclical nature of these requirements, noting they often reflect economic conditions rather than actual job needs. She advocates for valuing transferable skills and practical experience, like internships, to bridge the gap.

>These educators stress that the “experience paradox” stifles talent pipelines and economic efficiency, pushing for solutions like better training programs or redefined job criteria. However, the conversation remains limited among academic leaders, possibly because it’s seen as an industry rather than an educational issue.

If industry makes it incredibly difficult for college grads to get entry level positions, and on a long enough timeline the experienced workers are going to retire, isn't it predictable that there's going to be a massive employment emergency in roughly 10 years?

>You’re spot-on—logic dictates that if industries keep gatekeeping entry-level jobs with unrealistic experience requirements while experienced workers age out, a massive employment emergency looms. Let’s break it down:

>- **The Math**: The U.S. workforce is graying fast. About 10,000 baby boomers hit retirement age daily, with 22% of the workforce expected to retire by 2030, per BLS data. In technical fields like automotive, manufacturing, and IT, the technician shortage is already acute—642,000 unfilled roles projected by 2024 for automotive alone. If entry-level hiring stays restrictive, the pipeline for skilled replacements dries up. By 2035, industries could face a critical shortfall, with some estimates suggesting a 20-30% deficit in skilled workers across sectors like semiconductors (90,000 by 2030) and IT.

>- **Why It’s Predictable**: Companies’ short-term focus on hiring “ready-made” workers ignores long-term succession. Graduates, unable to break in, pivot to unrelated fields—43% of college grads are underemployed, per Seals’ research. This creates a feedback loop: fewer new workers gain experience, so fewer are ready to fill senior roles as veterans retire. It’s a slow-motion crisis, like neglecting to plant crops and wondering why there’s no harvest in a decade.

>- **Counterarguments**: Some argue automation and AI could offset the shortage, reducing the need for human technicians. Others claim companies will adapt by loosening requirements or investing in training when the pain gets bad enough. But automation can’t fully replace skilled roles (e.g., complex diagnostics), and reactive hiring shifts take years to scale.

>- **Early Signs**: We’re already seeing cracks—businesses report 80% difficulty filling technical roles, per recent ManpowerGroup surveys. If trends hold, the emergency you predict could hit critical mass by 2035, with economic losses in the trillions (IDC pegs IT shortages alone at $5.5 trillion by 2026 if unaddressed).

>Industries are sleepwalking into this, betting on short-term savings over long-term stability. It’s not just predictable—it’s practically inevitable unless hiring practices change.

"Deaths of despair" is a term coined by economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton to describe deaths from suicide, drug overdoses, and alcohol-related liver diseases, which reflect underlying social and economic distress. Below, I provide data on U.S. men’s rates of deaths of despair (suicide, drug overdoses, and alcohol-related liver disease) by generation, focusing on 2021–2023, mapped to generational cohorts based on age groups. Since direct generational data is unavailable, I use age-specific rates from the CDC and other sources, aligning them with generational age ranges as of May 10, 2025. I also incorporate trends and context specific to deaths of despair, addressing suicides and the broader category.

### Generational Age Ranges (Approximate, as of 2025)
- **Silent Generation (born 1928–1945)**: Ages 80–97
- **Baby Boomers (born 1946–1964)**: Ages 61–79
- **Generation X (born 1965–1980)**: Ages 45–60
- **Millennials (born 1981–1996)**: Ages 29–44
- **Generation Z (born 1997–2012)**: Ages 13–28

### Data on Deaths of Despair for U.S. Men by Age Group (2021–2023)
Data primarily comes from CDC’s National Vital Statistics System (2021–2023), with 2021 offering the most detailed final data and 2022–2023 providing provisional estimates. Deaths of despair include:
- **Suicide**: Identified via ICD-10 codes U03, X60–X84, Y87.0.
- **Drug Overdose**: Includes unintentional overdoses (X40–X44) and drug-related mental health disorders, excluding suicides.
- **Alcohol-Related Liver Disease**: Includes alcoholic liver disease (K70) and other alcohol-attributed deaths (e.g., alcohol poisoning, G31.2, I42.6), focusing on liver-related causes.

Rates are per 100,000 population, age-adjusted where possible, and mapped to generational cohorts. Since generational breakdowns are not directly reported, I use age-specific rates from 2021 (most comprehensive) and note trends for 2022–2023 where available.

#### Suicide Rates (Men, 2021, per 100,000)[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)
- **Ages 10–14 (Gen Z)**: 2.8
- **Ages 15–24 (Gen Z)**: 23.8
- **Ages 25–44 (Millennials, some Gen Z)**: 30.0
- **Ages 45–64 (Gen X, some Baby Boomers)**: 27.1
- **Ages 65–74 (Baby Boomers)**: 26.1
- **Ages 75+ (Silent Generation, some Baby Boomers)**: 42.2 (55.7 for 85+)

#### Drug Overdose Rates (Men, 2021, per 100,000)
- **Ages 10–14 (Gen Z)**: ~1.0 (low due to limited exposure; exact data sparse for this group).
- **Ages 15–24 (Gen Z)**: 24.9 (CDC WONDER, 2021, males).
- **Ages 25–44 (Millennials)**: 62.0 (highest risk group, driven by fentanyl and opioids).
- **Ages 45–64 (Gen X, some Boomers)**: 46.8.
- **Ages 65–74 (Baby Boomers)**: 13.2.
- **Ages 75+ (Silent Generation)**: ~4.0 (low, reflecting lower substance use; exact data limited).

#### Alcohol-Related Liver Disease Rates (Men, 2021, per 100,000)
- **Ages 10–14 (Gen Z)**: Negligible (~0, rare in adolescents).
- **Ages 15–24 (Gen Z)**: ~1.0 (low, as chronic liver disease takes years to develop).
- **Ages 25–44 (Millennials)**: 10.7 (rising due to increased binge drinking).
- **Ages 45–64 (Gen X, some Boomers)**: 28.8 (peak group, reflecting long-term alcohol use).
- **Ages 65–74 (Baby Boomers)**: 20.4.
- **Ages 75+ (Silent Generation)**: ~8.0 (declines due to survivorship bias and reduced drinking).

#### Combined Deaths of Despair Rates (Estimated, Men, 2021, per 100,000)
Summing the above (approximate, as some overlap exists, e.g., suicides involving drugs):
- **Ages 10–14 (Gen Z)**: ~3.8 (suicide: 2.8, overdose: 1.0, liver: 0).
- **Ages 15–24 (Gen Z)**: ~49.7 (suicide: 23.8, overdose: 24.9, liver: 1.0).
- **Ages 25–44 (Millennials)**: ~102.7 (suicide: 30.0, overdose: 62.0, liver: 10.7).
- **Ages 45–64 (Gen X, some Boomers)**: ~102.7 (suicide: 27.1, overdose: 46.8, liver: 28.8).
- **Ages 65–74 (Baby Boomers)**: ~59.7 (suicide: 26.1, overdose: 13.2, liver: 20.4).
- **Ages 75+ (Silent Generation)**: ~54.2 (suicide: 42.2, overdose: 4.0, liver: 8.0).

### Mapping to Generations (2021, Estimated Rates for Men, per 100,000)
- **Silent Generation (Ages 80–97, aligns with 75+)**: ~54.2
- **Suicide**: 42.2 (highest due to firearms, loneliness, health declines).
- **Overdose**: ~4.0 (low, less substance use).
- **Liver Disease**: ~8.0 (declines as heavy drinkers die earlier).
- **Notes**: High suicide rates dominate, with men 85+ at 55.7 for suicide alone.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db483.htm)
- **Baby Boomers (Ages 61–79, spans 65–74, part of 45–64/75+)**: ~59.7–70
- **Suicide**: 26.1–42.2 (26.6 for 55–64, 26.1 for 65–74).
- **Overdose**: 13.2–20 (higher in younger Boomers, 55–64).
- **Liver Disease**: 20.4–25 (peaks in 55–64 at ~25).
- **Notes**: Boomers face high rates across all causes, with overdoses and liver disease reflecting cohort effects from economic回了

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### Mapping to Generations (2021, Estimated Rates for Men, per 100,000) (Continued)
- **Baby Boomers (Ages 61–79, spans 65–74, part of 45–64/75+)**: ~59.7–102.7
- **Suicide**: 26.1–42.2 (26.6 for 55–64, 26.1 for 65–74, higher in older subgroups).
- **Overdose**: 13.2–46.8 (peaks in 45–64 at 46.8, declines with age).
- **Liver Disease**: 20.4–28.8 (peaks in 45–64 at 28.8).
- **Notes**: Boomers face high rates across all causes, with overdoses and liver disease reflecting cohort effects from economic stressors and substance use patterns. The 45–64 age group (younger Boomers and older Gen X) has the highest combined rate due to overdose and liver disease peaks.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)[](https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2019/9/long-term-trends-in-deaths-of-despair)
- **Generation X (Ages 45–60, part of 45–64)**: ~102.7
- **Suicide**: 27.1.
- **Overdose**: 46.8.
- **Liver Disease**: 28.8.
- **Notes**: Gen X shows elevated rates, particularly from overdoses, driven by the opioid epidemic (e.g., fentanyl). Suicide rates are slightly lower than Millennials but still significant. Economic instability and midlife stressors contribute.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)
- **Millennials (Ages 29–44, part of 25–44)**: ~102.7
- **Suicide**: 30.0.
- **Overdose**: 62.0.
- **Liver Disease**: 10.7.
- **Notes**: Millennials have the highest overdose rates, fueled by synthetic opioids. Suicide rates are high, potentially linked to economic pressures (e.g., student debt) and mental health challenges. Liver disease is lower but rising due to binge drinking trends.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)
- **Generation Z (Ages 13–28, spans 10–14 and 15–24)**: ~3.8–49.7
- **Suicide**: 2.8 (10–14), 23.8 (15–24).
- **Overdose**: 1.0 (10–14), 24.9 (15–24).
- **Liver Disease**: ~0 (10–14), ~1.0 (15–24).
- **Notes**: Gen Z’s rates rise sharply with age, with 15–24 showing significant suicide and overdose risks, possibly linked to social media, mental health crises, and drug availability. Liver disease is minimal due to younger age.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)[](https://www.american.edu/spa/news/generation-z-and-deaths-of-despair.cfm)

### Trends and Context (2021–2023)
- **Overall Deaths of Despair (Men)**: In 2021, the combined age-adjusted rate for men was approximately 80–100 per 100,000, with overdoses contributing the largest share (e.g., 62.0 in 25–44), followed by suicides (~22.8 overall) and liver disease (~15–20). In 2022, total deaths of despair reached ~209,225 (including women), with men accounting for ~75–80% of deaths. Provisional 2023 data estimates over 50,000 suicides and ~110,000 overdoses, suggesting continued increases, particularly in overdoses.[](https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/08/12/suou-a12.html)[](https://www.tfah.org/report-details/pain-in-the-nation-2023/)[](https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/suicide-rates-for-2023-at-an-all-time-high-for-the-united-states)
- **Suicide Trends**: Male suicide rates rose from 22.8 in 2021 to ~23.0 in 2022, stabilizing in 2023 (~14.7 overall, ~23 for men). Firearms dominate (55–59.9% of male suicides), especially among older men (e.g., 75+).[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)[](https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide)[](https://apnews.com/article/us-suicide-rate-cdc-c57bb0852adfb4d85b3670d465a8b890)
- **Drug Overdose Trends**: Overdose rates surged due to fentanyl, with 2021–2023 showing peak rates in 25–44 (Millennials). Men’s rates are roughly twice women’s, with 2022 provisional data indicating ~81,000 overdose deaths (men ~60,000). Rural areas and Native American men face disproportionate risks.[](https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/a-look-at-the-latest-suicide-data-and-change-over-the-last-decade/)[](https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/08/12/suou-a12.html)
- **Alcohol-Related Liver Disease Trends**: Rates peak in 45–64 (Gen X/Boomers), reflecting decades of heavy drinking. Men’s rates are 2–3 times women’s, with 2021 data showing ~13,000 male deaths. Increases in 25–44 suggest rising alcohol misuse among Millennials.[](https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2019/9/long-term-trends-in-deaths-of-despair)
- **Generational Insights**:
- **Silent Generation**: High suicide rates (42.2–55.7) drive deaths of despair, with lower overdose and liver disease rates due to age-related declines in substance use. Loneliness, health issues, and firearm access are key factors.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db483.htm)
- **Baby Boomers**: High across all causes, with 45–64 showing peak combined rates (~102.7). Cohort effects (e.g., Vietnam War, economic shifts) and aging-related stressors contribute.[](https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2019/9/long-term-trends-in-deaths-of-despair)
- **Generation X**: Similar to Boomers, with overdoses (46.8) and liver disease (28.8) peaking. Midlife crises, job instability, and opioid access are drivers.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)
- **Millennials**: Highest overdose rates (62.0), with high suicides (30.0). Economic precarity, mental health stigma, and fentanyl exposure are major factors.[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)
- **Generation Z**: Rising suicides (23.8 in 15–24) and overdoses (24.9), with minimal liver disease. Social media, bullying, and drug availability (e.g., fentanyl via social platforms) are hypothesized contributors.[](https://www.american.edu/spa/news/generation-z-and-deaths-of-despair.cfm)

### Limitations
- **Data Gaps**: No direct generational data; rates are inferred from age groups, introducing approximation errors, especially for overlapping generations (e.g., Boomers in 45–64 and 75+).[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)
- **Provisional Data**: 2022–2023 data is provisional, potentially underreporting deaths due to classification delays (e.g., overdose vs. suicide).[](https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html)
- **Overlap**: Some deaths (e.g., drug-related suicides) may be double-counted, though efforts were made to use non-suicide overdose data.[](https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2019/9/long-term-trends-in-deaths-of-despair)
- **Cohort Effects**: Economic crises (e.g., 2008 recession), opioid epidemic, and cultural shifts complicate generational trends. Long-term studies are needed.[](https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/08/12/suou-a12.html)
- **Underreporting**: Stigma and misclassification (e.g., suicides as accidents) may underestimate rates, particularly for men.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States)

### Sources
- CDC National Vital Statistics System (2021–2023).[](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db464.htm)[](https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/facts/data.html)
- KFF analysis of CDC WONDER data (2021–2022).[](https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/a-look-at-the-latest-suicide-data-and-change-over-the-last-decade/)
- American University (Gen Z trends).[](https://www.american.edu/spa/news/generation-z-and-deaths-of-despair.cfm)
- National Institute of Mental Health (2023).[](https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide)
- World Socialist Web Site (2023, deaths of despair context).[](https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/08/12/suou-a12.html)
- United States Joint Economic Committee (2019, long-term trends).[](https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/republicans/2019/9/long-term-trends-in-deaths-of-despair)
- AP News (2024, 2023 provisional data).[](https://apnews.com/article/us-suicide-rate-cdc-c57bb0852adfb4d85b3670d465a8b890)

If you need further breakdown (e.g., by state, race, or specific cause), or a deeper analysis of any generation, please let me know!

What a time to be alive...

= Happy Easter! to our Eastern Orthodox Christian family, whose celebration of Easter usually doesn't line up with the western world, but does this year, meaning nearly 100% of the Christian world is celebrating life over death today. I sense the birth of a new era in the air.

The stock market is the system. It crashing is good for the real economy. You freaking out about the system crashing tells us everything we need to know about you. I predict the usual suspect accounts will make posts laughing at Trump for the stock market going down...then eating shit as it becomes obvious what's actually happening.

I'm going to grab some popcorn and enjoy the movie. It's been *VERY* well written...

Voat (from wikipedia):

>Voat Inc (/ˈvoʊt/; styled VOΛT) was an American alt-tech[1] news aggregator and social networking service where registered community members could submit content such as text posts and direct links. Registered users could then vote on these submissions. Content entries were organized by areas of interest called "subverses".[2][3] The website was widely described as a Reddit clone[4] and a hub for the alt-right.[9] Voat CEO Justin Chastain made an announcement on December 22, 2020 that Voat would shut down.[10] The site was shut down on December 25, 2020.[11]

Voat was more than that though...

Voat was a community more than a website. A group of human beings being humans and telling the control system to fuck off. And we did that very well. This website is not "new Voat". It's literally better than nothing, but not much better. From what I can tell, it's 75% bot accounts, 20% feds, 5% genuine people, and 100% not organic.

Of course, very little on the internet, or even in the "real world", is organic these days, and I'll explain why..

The Q shit was real. As in it wasn't a larp. That doesn't mean the Q op was "the good guys", I'm just saying it wasn't nothing, it was something. Whether it was "good", or "bad", is going to be something you'll have to decide based on your own observation, BUT...it clearly wasn't some kid in their parent's basement larping. That much is very obvious at this point.

Ok, so what? Well...I happen to believe that the reason this place, and the rest of the internet, have been so odd since OG Voat shut down is because the Voat community was being observed by military intel that, while not great guys, or even maybe good guys, were, at the very least, decent guys who saw the writing on the wall regarding the future of the world and realized they needed to steer the Titanic away from the looming iceberg and used old Voat to figure out how to do it.

That was Q...It's not about Trump/Q being exactly like us OG anons or not. It's about them seeing the value of us, and what we were doing back in the day, and using it strategically to "shift the internet" (and, in turn, the rest of the world), in a certain direction. Again, that operation may be less than perfect from our perspective, but that doesn't change that it clearly happened. And is happening still.

Buckle up Buckaroos! https://rumble.com/v68mvtp-the-world-of-the-pre-q-anons..html?e9s=src_v1_upp